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TheKentuckian

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43. There is no recovery for me, I still haven't recovered from the 1st Bush recession.

Tue Jan 27, 2015, 12:45 PM

Jan 2015

When is this "recovery" going to come regular people? At what point is it not ever coming? Will we again have another "recession" before it happens at which point those then "pre recession" become a "new normal" to measure "recovery" from?

We are already at five years now, what is the longest period of time between "recessions", seven years or so?

Not gonna happen, adjusted dollars wages haven't "recovered" in decades since like the late 70's. This time it doesn't appear we will be so lucky and many if not most won't recover in real dollars before the next downturn instead of just a chunk of us.

Lots of "middle class" types are never going to get back. Some will be poor from here out and others will be clearly and inarguably working class, unable to lie to themselves about their class anymore, neither group will forget.

There is no benefit of whistling past the graveyard here. Recovery is a fantasy, not even a serious goal other than as it is going right now.

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This Map Reveals Just How Unequal The So-Called Recovery Is [View all] RiverLover Jan 2015 OP

how bout dat recovery? Man from Pickens Jan 2015 #1

Already am. marym625 Jan 2015 #3

Same here. chervilant Jan 2015 #9

I'm have too much experience marym625 Jan 2015 #22

K&R marym625 Jan 2015 #2

Agreed GummyBearz Jan 2015 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author stevedtx Jan 2015 #5

That's exactly right. Team Blue vs Team Red RiverLover Jan 2015 #8

... Scuba Jan 2015 #68

Bingo! n/t marym625 Jan 2015 #20

So does letting people fall into poverty while pretending otherwise. n/t jtuck004 Jan 2015 #15

yep. marym625 Jan 2015 #19

Me too. RiverLover Jan 2015 #6

and soon marym625 Jan 2015 #21

Less of a red state/blue state divide than I was expecting nxylas Jan 2015 #7

Two things interesting about your post: chervilant Jan 2015 #10

recovery . what recovery. the only ppl who have recovered is the rich allan01 Jan 2015 #11

Ultimately this is where the real dissatisfication with Obama lies. EndElectoral Jan 2015 #12

It is perverse marym625 Jan 2015 #23

Kicked Enthusiast Jan 2015 #13

Don't worry. Vote for Hillary. She will fix this. L0oniX Jan 2015 #14

Aww, heck, just vote for someone self-id'd as a Democrat. Problems solved. n/t jtuck004 Jan 2015 #16

Wow. That makes it so clear. Bookmarked, recommended. Autumn Jan 2015 #17

I wish that ridiculous articles/studies like this hfojvt Jan 2015 #18

Agreed. One of the central things missing in this study is a comparison to previous recoveries stevenleser Jan 2015 #24

From EPI's nonpartisan study, you'll see inequality is back at levels not seen since the late 1920s RiverLover Jan 2015 #25

OP posits that this recovery is somehow different from others. That is what I am addressing. stevenleser Jan 2015 #26

I don't see that "posit" in the OP. nt RiverLover Jan 2015 #27

If that's not what you are positing, than the OP is completely meaningless. That's your choice... stevenleser Jan 2015 #30

Whatever helps you sleep at night. Blinders always help. RiverLover Jan 2015 #34

Having all the data and knowing I am right and didn't write a nonsensical OP helps me sleep. nt stevenleser Jan 2015 #37

... RiverLover Jan 2015 #38

The problem with this alleged recovery is not Jackpine Radical Jan 2015 #58

There is no recovery for me, I still haven't recovered from the 1st Bush recession. TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #43

People said the same about every single previous recovery. dating back to the 1930s. stevenleser Jan 2015 #45

"If one things about why that is, it becomes obvious." = pls explain ND-Dem Jan 2015 #28

I'll let you think about it some more to see if you can get it. Hint, all recoveries work this way. stevenleser Jan 2015 #31

i couldn't which is why i asked ND-Dem Jan 2015 #32

Walk yourself through it. You will get there. nt stevenleser Jan 2015 #39

So it sounds like you're a "trickle down" theory kind of guy, if you think the rich must recover RiverLover Jan 2015 #40

Nope, I'm not.nt stevenleser Jan 2015 #41

I have brain damage. Why not just answer the question ND-Dem Jan 2015 #42

Why should I put forth the effort to explain it if you won't put forth the effort to understand it? stevenleser Jan 2015 #44

I have post-meningitis brain damage. I'm not kidding. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #47

OK, lets use the example of an FDR type effort at a recovery... stevenleser Jan 2015 #48

Is the answer they spend them at giant corporations so therefore inequality rises? ND-Dem Jan 2015 #52

No. They spend them on food at the grocery store, on clothes at the clothing store, and stevenleser Jan 2015 #53

so that's why inequality is rising ND-Dem Jan 2015 #54

Correct, during a recovery, that's why inequality is increasing more than it normally might... stevenleser Jan 2015 #55

got a link for your claim? ND-Dem Jan 2015 #56

You need one? Are you actually disputing that? nt stevenleser Jan 2015 #57

Seems to me your claim is equivalent to saying inequality always rises, not just in recovery. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #59

No, that's not what I am saying. My posit is specifically regarding the beginning of recoveries. stevenleser Jan 2015 #61

I didn't say you said it. I said what you did say is equivalent to that. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #63

No, it isn't. First you tell me you can't figure stuff out, then you tell me what my words mean as stevenleser Jan 2015 #64

you said, during a recovery ordinary people get some money and turn around and spend it ND-Dem Jan 2015 #66

Because you have nothing but want to argue anyway, that's why. TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #50

Sure I do, and it's obvious. See my 48. If you can't figure this out, you have no business stevenleser Jan 2015 #51

There isn't one TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #46

Of course there is, and it's obvious. See my #48 nt stevenleser Jan 2015 #49

The Democrats are not left enough. n/t Comrade Grumpy Jan 2015 #35

That's not what I said. nt stevenleser Jan 2015 #36

it's not? ND-Dem Jan 2015 #71

ridiculous why? pls explain. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #29

there are fifty ways to leave your lover hfojvt Jan 2015 #60

That's not the title, just for starters. This is the title: ND-Dem Jan 2015 #62

way to jump on something irrelevant for starters hfojvt Jan 2015 #65

you're the one who jumped on the title, and commented on it like you were refuting some claim ND-Dem Jan 2015 #67

I would think a Nodakian hfojvt Jan 2015 #69

the 1% are very real, not legendary. you seem to have a vested interest. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #70

Ill take it, though treestar Jan 2015 #33

You, RiverLover, marym625 Feb 2015 #72