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LuvNewcastle

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57. He could have a lot of influence on human rights in Uganda,

Wed Jan 28, 2015, 07:57 AM

Jan 2015

but he chooses to remain silent about it. If there is a such thing as sin, I think his refusal to intervene in that matter definitely qualifies as one. If you can help someone who is being abused by another person and you choose to do nothing, you might as well be abusing that person yourself. I think Jesus would agree.

I have no regard for Francis because he hasn't even tried to do anything to stop what's going on in Uganda and other countries with significant numbers of Catholics. It's one thing not to speak out about the execution and mistreatment of gay people in some Muslim countries -- although I believe he should speak out about that too -- but he could sway many Catholics in some of those African countries. I'll never forgive him for that.

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Pope Francis compares pushing gay agenda to �Hitler Youth� indoctrination [View all] edhopper Jan 2015 OP

And he comes down yet another notch. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #1

Same policies edhopper Jan 2015 #2

A bit more compassion for the poor is the only thing really new. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #3

Oh, he comes down a notch - LiberalElite Jan 2015 #4

NO IT FUCKING ISN'T FRANK NuclearDem Jan 2015 #5

What does he believe he is pushing? Democrats still believe it is wise for him to speak to Jefferson23 Jan 2015 #6

Someone needs to take him aside and explain things to him. Baitball Blogger Jan 2015 #7

He says a lot of compassionate things. And then he says this. Avalux Jan 2015 #8

I haven't edhopper Jan 2015 #9

I haven't either. Avalux Jan 2015 #12

He could have a lot of influence on human rights in Uganda, LuvNewcastle Jan 2015 #57

Catholics are the largest religious group in Uganda, 43% of the population, another 41% or so is Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #64

He sadi this the day before Holocaust Rememberance Day?! He needs to read what I wrote: Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #10

not surprised in the least. pope photo op is all about image, and nothing more. niyad Jan 2015 #11

+1... SidDithers Jan 2015 #22

To the disfigured believer ChazII Jan 2015 #103

people are so damn anxious to have a reason to adore this guy. m-lekktor Jan 2015 #35

There is no gay agenda herding cats Jan 2015 #13

Bing-Bing-Bing-Bing-Bing-Bing! longship Jan 2015 #54

Well said! LuvNewcastle Jan 2015 #58

One-point-oh-oh-one steps forward, one step back. hunter Jan 2015 #14

So exactly WTF is the Gay agenda? I ask my gay friends and they don't know what the agenda is ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #15

I'm pretty sure that the gay agenda is for gay people to be treated just like everyone else FiveGoodMen Jan 2015 #16

What, not something more nefarious? I am crushed! ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #33

Not as far as I can tell. FiveGoodMen Jan 2015 #39

Don't tell.... Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #43

OMG that is horrifying! ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #47

Toasters hedgehog Jan 2015 #68

As in everyone gets a Dualit Toaster? ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #69

It should be explained only if "you get one" over to the gay side. Lol lunasun Jan 2015 #81

OK just how far over to the gay side for the free Dualit toaster? ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #98

Other accounts el_bryanto Jan 2015 #17

Wow. That seems more fact based and reads a LOT different joeglow3 Jan 2015 #20

Never let facts get in the way of a good hatefest. rug Jan 2015 #34

I'm not sure that including feminism in 'things like Nazi propaganda' is any better, though muriel_volestrangler Jan 2015 #36

I would bet he would acknowledge it. joeglow3 Jan 2015 #37

Have you ever heard what is taught in Catholic schools? muriel_volestrangler Jan 2015 #38

No shit they do in catholic schools. joeglow3 Jan 2015 #42

And the pope was talking about a book on gender theory being kept in school libraries muriel_volestrangler Jan 2015 #46

You honestly cannot see the difference? joeglow3 Jan 2015 #56

" someone providing ONE option and requiring that one to teach a particular view of God" muriel_volestrangler Jan 2015 #62

Yes. You were discussing aid in your comment joeglow3 Jan 2015 #73

The one form of aid I discussed was providing money for schools muriel_volestrangler Jan 2015 #74

By that logic, EVERY company that offers a product is giving aid joeglow3 Jan 2015 #75

The school is not a 'product'; it is run as a charity partially funded by the Catholic church muriel_volestrangler Jan 2015 #82

I am saying it is an alternative to an existing product people can elect to purchase joeglow3 Jan 2015 #99

If the church contributed anything to the funding, then they were aiding it muriel_volestrangler Jan 2015 #100

Thank you. That IS different. Octafish Jan 2015 #28

I'm not actually sure it exonerates Pope Francis though el_bryanto Jan 2015 #30

Is there a transcript or unedited video of the Pope's remarks? Octafish Jan 2015 #67

I don't know of any - I looked yesterday el_bryanto Jan 2015 #76

Found this from a source in Uganda... Octafish Jan 2015 #106

How is it different? n/t Humanist_Activist Jan 2015 #48

It's not what he said? Octafish Jan 2015 #63

So, most Catholic sources, including the Vatican, are just as dishonest... Humanist_Activist Jan 2015 #97

I would like to see the actual tape, even if it's in Spanish. Octafish Jan 2015 #105

it's the comparison to " Hitler youth" that is the problem JI7 Jan 2015 #29

How is this an improvement? This simply expands on the OP... Humanist_Activist Jan 2015 #49

Please see Post 30. nt el_bryanto Jan 2015 #61

This garbage, agenda driven site has distorted these remarks to fit their agenda. cbayer Jan 2015 #77

The link in the OP is from a dubious site, but what about this one? PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #95

That is a legitimate article that merits legitimate discussion and criticism. cbayer Jan 2015 #96

And yet again Pope Wonderful's veneer of "niceness" frays, exposing more RCC malevolence. Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #18

the pope and catholic church = the ultimate imperial colonizers, fleecing the poor under threat of msongs Jan 2015 #19

You've got it. Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #80

Meet the new boss... SidDithers Jan 2015 #21

Where is our resident Pope defender? trumad Jan 2015 #23

that should be edhopper Jan 2015 #25

you're losing me pope lame54 Jan 2015 #24

And yet only the Church elevates Hitler Youth to the papacy. Orsino Jan 2015 #26

who is his source on the Nazi propoganda machine? guillaumeb Jan 2015 #27

Is that the same "Nazi propaganda machine" that MineralMan Jan 2015 #31

I honestly couldn't give two shits whether someone makes a Nazi reference or not. Initech Jan 2015 #32

But of course, no one on DU defends Glenn Beck. That's the difference. Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #65

+1 treestar Jan 2015 #71

Have any of you looked at the site linked in the OP? Beaverhausen Jan 2015 #40

Reply #17 edhopper Jan 2015 #41

Right. And homosexuality isn't mentioned by the pope Beaverhausen Jan 2015 #45

Uhm, here's a concise summary of what the Pope is talking about... Humanist_Activist Jan 2015 #50

Here you go... PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #59

Wow MFrohike Jan 2015 #44

If you would like other sources, here you go... Humanist_Activist Jan 2015 #51

Doesn't it make you wonder...why isn't the alleged "liberal" media reporting it? Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #52

People like narratives, what I don't understand is how ignorance is used to... Humanist_Activist Jan 2015 #53

Here's another link for you. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #60

Here's a bit of the LGBT press about it, video and everything. Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #66

I wonder if authoritarian organized religions could survive if they didn't create and use Zorra Jan 2015 #92

Irony is Rex Jan 2015 #55

I've read the Bible, Mr. Pope, SIR, and it warns about people like you: Zorra Jan 2015 #70

This is a total distortion of what he actually said and posting this is deceptive. cbayer Jan 2015 #72

How can a theory about gender roles not be about homosexuality in part? Explain that. Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #78

Read about it. Find me something that supports this headline. cbayer Jan 2015 #79

GLAAD is the largest LGBT legal advocacy group in the US. They make you sick. Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #83

Not going to happen. cbayer Jan 2015 #86

I gave you a link to GLAAD and you say it is not GLAAD? I also offered you Reuters and simply Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #88

Dishonest and deceptive, BNW. You added that link in an edit. cbayer Jan 2015 #89

Yeah, I cited it then went to find the link because YOU were demanding other sources. Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #91

Here's from Reuters. Do they also make you sick? Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #85

This was a completely separate event and I absolutely object to what he said here. cbayer Jan 2015 #87

You asked for other sources, I gave them to you. You made assertions and I asked you to explain Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #90

So, instead of being just homophobic, he's being transphobic too. Humanist_Activist Jan 2015 #94

The right loves to compare the left to Hitler. However, Hitler was as extreme rightist as it gets. merrily Jan 2015 #84

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2015 #93

The "Pope Francis Honeymoon" tis over? n/t fredamae Jan 2015 #101

AND there ends all of my previous support Tsiyu Jan 2015 #102

Does Godwin's Law apply to the Pope? KamaAina Jan 2015 #104