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In reply to the discussion: TPP Trade Deal Will Be Devastating for Access to Affordable Medicines [View all]1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)20. How? ...
is support for Fast Track, in effect, support for the TPP?
I also think that there has been ample evidence brought to our attention that this "trade" agreement contains many other things within it that has nothing to do with trade.
What is this "ample evidence" of what is in the trade agreement, when THERE IS NO TRADE AGREEMENT.
It seems like a work around to get certain policies implemented that can't get passed through Congress (or can't get passed through Congress without extremely negative repercussions and embarrassment), and we have been told that's what's happening by people I deem to be trustworthy.
Fast-tracking wouldn't/doesn't remove the problematic stuff ... If the final agreement contains all/any of that embarrassing/repercussion producing stuff, then Congress just votes it down.
So, your support for the TPP certainly exists as far as I'm concerned. It might be weak support, but you definitely are not part of the movement to stop Fast Track (since you would be inclined to vote "Yes"
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I support TPP because I want to actually see what's in it before I take a stand on it? That is laughably sad, especially for liberals that supposedly pride ourselves on holding informed opinions.
and if by some miracle we are able to prevent Fast Track and the TPP from passing it does not appear to me that you will have been part of the movement to prevent its passage.
If the agreement accomplishes the US government's objectives ... you are correct, I will not be part of the movement to prevent its passage. But on the other hand, should the final agreement contain the stuff that I find objectionable; then, I will join the anti-TPP movement ... but I try really hard to NOT join any un/mis-informed movements. That runs counter to my need to have my opinions/actions informed by fact, rather than, supposition.
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TPP Trade Deal Will Be Devastating for Access to Affordable Medicines [View all]
StopTheTPP
Jan 2015
OP
When our negotiating positions stink, & when "really bad ideas" are "being floated", & when Congress
Faryn Balyncd
Jan 2015
#37
You are correct. THe rhetoric you repeat above is nothing like what is contained in the agreement.
rhett o rick
Jan 2015
#5
Secrecy + Corporate Input + Fast Track + "Don't Talk about what's in it tell it's done" = OLIGARCHY
Faryn Balyncd
Jan 2015
#7
if they obey tpp, the world will have drug prices as high as those in the US which are way
ND-Dem
Jan 2015
#25
We have people who I trust that have seen the TPP and are firmly against it.
stillwaiting
Jan 2015
#14
Fast Track means that, no matter what unsavory stuff is contained in the TPP - nothing
djean111
Jan 2015
#26
His "stated" objectives are trade based. He does not address the Investor State giveaway.
djean111
Jan 2015
#35
It would allow the shysters to push prices on alreadt skyrocketing generics through the roof.
Faryn Balyncd
Jan 2015
#9
This is so simple for those who DO support Fast Track - thus supporting the TPP - just don't
djean111
Jan 2015
#27
In December, MSF together with the AFL-CIO, AARP and the Generic Pharmaceutical Association sent
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2015
#39