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rhett o rick

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29. Response to your first comment ...
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 02:16 PM
Jan 2015

"There is no agreement." Nice dodge.

Response to your first answer. "I generally support trade agreements as they are necessary for trade." Trade agreements are good for trade. Yes, if they are good agreements. "I don't know what the agreement will look like." Funny how you would vote Yes on it w/o knowing what it looks like. Is this where you tell me you have total faith in the President?

Response to your second answer, "I'm undecided on fast-track". Again nice dodge. Seems to me that we by-pass our balance of power when we allow the President to ram-rod thru agreements made in secret with little debate. Neither democratic nor Democratic.

Of course it's not an "agreement" yet (duh!), but people have seen parts and parts have been leaked and it looks like this "Trade Agreement" contains much more that trade agreements. From the sounds of your post, you don't care what it might contain and are willing to Fast Track it thru.

Sen Sanders says no to Fast Tracking and no to the TPP because:

1. TPP will allow corporations to outsource even more jobs overseas.
2. U.S. sovereignty will be undermined by giving corporations the right to challenge our laws before international tribunals.
3. Wages, benefits, and collective bargaining will be threatened.
4. Our ability to protect the environment will be undermined.
5. Food Safety Standards will be threatened.
6. Buy America laws could come to an end.
7. Prescription drug prices will increase, access to life saving drugs will decrease, and the profits of drug companies will go up.
8. Wall Street would benefit at the expense of everyone else.
9. The TPP would reward authoritarian regimes like Vietnam that systematically violate human rights.
10. The TPP has no expiration date, making it virtually impossible to repeal.

I stand with Sen Sanders against the corporations that would take all our wealth (it's their nature). The President apparently stands with the corporations.

Supporting conservative Democrats is supporting the status-quo. We need change.

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The US Government's Negotiating objectives, related to drugs ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #1
Intellectual Property and Drug Prices: Faryn Balyncd Jan 2015 #2
How is relying on the lofty words of the US Objectives ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #3
Krugman has a pretty good answer for you: Faryn Balyncd Jan 2015 #4
Again, what is he basing that opinion on ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #12
When our negotiating positions stink, & when "really bad ideas" are "being floated", & when Congress Faryn Balyncd Jan 2015 #37
history ND-Dem Jan 2015 #24
History is the opposite of progress. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #30
so far as governments lying goes, there has been no "progress" in millenia. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #38
Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #40
You are correct. THe rhetoric you repeat above is nothing like what is contained in the agreement. rhett o rick Jan 2015 #5
There is no agreement yet, so it's silly to talk about "what's in it" Recursion Jan 2015 #6
Secrecy + Corporate Input + Fast Track + "Don't Talk about what's in it tell it's done" = OLIGARCHY Faryn Balyncd Jan 2015 #7
Bingo Populist_Prole Jan 2015 #8
if they obey tpp, the world will have drug prices as high as those in the US which are way ND-Dem Jan 2015 #25
Response to your first comment ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #13
Response to your first comment ... rhett o rick Jan 2015 #29
That's NOT a dodge ... It is a direct answer to your question ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #33
The discrepancy you cite is EXACTLY the point. Jim Lane Jan 2015 #10
+1 Good post BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #11
We have people who I trust that have seen the TPP and are firmly against it. stillwaiting Jan 2015 #14
I have not seen a single person expressing support for ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #16
Oh my... nt stillwaiting Jan 2015 #17
Well, at least not on DU ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #18
I consider support for Fast Track, in effect, support for the TPP. stillwaiting Jan 2015 #19
How? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #20
Fast Track means that, no matter what unsavory stuff is contained in the TPP - nothing djean111 Jan 2015 #26
No ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #31
The GOP is slavering for this agreement, because it enables corporations to djean111 Jan 2015 #32
The gop is slathering over this agreement ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #34
His "stated" objectives are trade based. He does not address the Investor State giveaway. djean111 Jan 2015 #35
Yes.He.Does ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #36
The analysis by Medecins Sans Frontieres (MSF) ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #15
I disagree with your criticisms of Medecins Sans Frontieres. Jim Lane Jan 2015 #21
because they've done so well so far at 'negotiating' prices with big pharma ND-Dem Jan 2015 #22
The US government hasn't been involved in ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #28
It would allow the shysters to push prices on alreadt skyrocketing generics through the roof. Faryn Balyncd Jan 2015 #9
+100 ND-Dem Jan 2015 #23
This is so simple for those who DO support Fast Track - thus supporting the TPP - just don't djean111 Jan 2015 #27
In December, MSF together with the AFL-CIO, AARP and the Generic Pharmaceutical Association sent Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #39
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