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chervilant

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37. Fictitious dichotomy?

Wed Jan 28, 2015, 01:37 PM

Jan 2015

So, you think Ravitch and other professional educators are wrong? Besides, I think you are missing the key issue:

Circling back to that fancy website with its cute dance, I want to encourage us
to be more critical in our evaluations of what is good for our children. Yes, it makes charter schools and voucher programs look shiny, happy and successful. But it’s worth remembering that School Choice Week is basically a giant commercial, paid for by a huge list of corporate sponsors. It’s pushing a product. Like all ads, I know it is a misrepresentation designed to make me want it. But just because I can buy it, doesn’t make it worth having. And I’m not buying.

Poverty remains the single most important obstacle to effectively educating our younglings.

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5 Devastating Facts About Charter Schools You Won't Hear from the 'National School Choice Week' [View all] xchrom Jan 2015 OP

This: chervilant Jan 2015 #1

I think there are probably quite a few unacknowledged reasons. Pacifist Patriot Jan 2015 #2

They've found a way to transplant the "Christian Academies" of the post-integration Deep South hatrack Jan 2015 #3

The charter school here in my small town YarnAddict Jan 2015 #4

Well done sir or madame jehop61 Jan 2015 #6

Thank you! YarnAddict Jan 2015 #7

No, it's not the "truth". Darb Jan 2015 #34

your precious anecdotal story aside m-lekktor Jan 2015 #11

You don't like my "precious" anecdote YarnAddict Jan 2015 #14

You have no solutions and could not care less about one. Darb Jan 2015 #35

seems it was the charter that failed ND-Dem Jan 2015 #46

The charter school failed YarnAddict Jan 2015 #49

Can you name me a single for-profit charter school, anywhere in the US? Recursion Jan 2015 #32

are you kidding? ND-Dem Jan 2015 #47

Charter Schools were never intended to provide a quality alternative to public education Orrex Jan 2015 #5

Competition is good YarnAddict Jan 2015 #8

That's a red herring. Orrex Jan 2015 #10

What is the more important question, IMHO, YarnAddict Jan 2015 #13

The problems you cite won't be corrected by leeching money from public schools Orrex Jan 2015 #21

That poster does not want a solution, just seems to want to spew Darb Jan 2015 #36

Charter schools most places are filled by lottery. Hard to cherry pick that. Recursion Jan 2015 #38

None of what you've written refutes anything in the OP Orrex Jan 2015 #40

Big Profits in Not-for-Profit Charter Schools ND-Dem Jan 2015 #48

Charter schools have comparable results with much poorer and less-white students Recursion Jan 2015 #9

As long as they don't siphon any money from public schools, then more power to them Orrex Jan 2015 #15

Charter schools are public schools Recursion Jan 2015 #16

They are profit-generating machines in the guise of public schools Orrex Jan 2015 #24

Well, no; I'm pretty sure in every jurisdiction they are required to be not-for-profit Recursion Jan 2015 #26

Where does the money go? Orrex Jan 2015 #29

Where does it go in neighborhood schools? Mostly salaries, maintenance, and transportation Recursion Jan 2015 #30

Public schools have to foot the bill for a lot of services leeched by charter schools Orrex Jan 2015 #33

Public schools using public resources is "theft"? Recursion Jan 2015 #39

Charter schools moving in and usurping scant resources is, effectively, theft Orrex Jan 2015 #41

Quality public education Recursion Jan 2015 #42

That answer is meaningless. Orrex Jan 2015 #43

Odd thing to "learn" since I don't think either of those are true Recursion Jan 2015 #44

This is exactly my problem with charter schools. HappyMe Jan 2015 #17

They have those... GummyBearz Jan 2015 #31

I don't disagree with your list about charter schools, however, when you can't afford private school Pisces Jan 2015 #12

Anyone who touts charters for "the poors" Starry Messenger Jan 2015 #18

Or look at DC, where they educate 45% of the students Recursion Jan 2015 #19

How is that at all responsive to my post, Recursion? Starry Messenger Jan 2015 #20

No, but I tutored at multiple schools in DC back when I lived there Recursion Jan 2015 #22

I asked if you'd walked around the physical buildings in Oakland Starry Messenger Jan 2015 #23

And I'm asking if you've walked around the charters in DC Recursion Jan 2015 #25

Let me know when you're back for a visit, Recursion. Starry Messenger Jan 2015 #27

You too! Recursion Jan 2015 #28

Fictitious dichotomy? chervilant Jan 2015 #37

k&r... spanone Jan 2015 #45

YAY! Anti-union, anti-public education posters on DU!! BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #50