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In reply to the discussion: TPP Trade Deal Will Be Devastating for Access to Affordable Medicines [View all]1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)34. The gop is slathering over this agreement ...
because the THINK it will roll back regulations that impinge of profits (and for a number of other terms outlined in the leaked memos). This is an unknown, and wouldn't be the first time business bet wrong with respect to President Obama's actions.
How do you think the vote is going to go?
Since republicans have control over both Houses of Congress, it would likely pass ... assuming the terms that republicans want to see in it are, in fact, included in it. However, should the US government's Objective be realized, it would likely fail. But, the vote still, really, remains uncertain ... its outcome depends on what is in the agreement and how loudly dissenters shout.
Obama has already said he will ignore the Dems in Congress, and work with the GOP on this.
I do not think for a second that Obama wants this to fail because it puts the Investor State over sovereign governments.
I do not think for a second that Obama wants this to fail because it puts the Investor State over sovereign governments.
That is unsurprising ... but I happen to think that President Obama will not sign a trade agreement that does not largely conform to the stated Objectives.
The difference between the two of us is your utter and unshakable belief that President Obama is corrupt and out to screw the American people in favor of "the oligarchs"; whereas, I do not share that belief.
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TPP Trade Deal Will Be Devastating for Access to Affordable Medicines [View all]
StopTheTPP
Jan 2015
OP
When our negotiating positions stink, & when "really bad ideas" are "being floated", & when Congress
Faryn Balyncd
Jan 2015
#37
You are correct. THe rhetoric you repeat above is nothing like what is contained in the agreement.
rhett o rick
Jan 2015
#5
Secrecy + Corporate Input + Fast Track + "Don't Talk about what's in it tell it's done" = OLIGARCHY
Faryn Balyncd
Jan 2015
#7
if they obey tpp, the world will have drug prices as high as those in the US which are way
ND-Dem
Jan 2015
#25
We have people who I trust that have seen the TPP and are firmly against it.
stillwaiting
Jan 2015
#14
Fast Track means that, no matter what unsavory stuff is contained in the TPP - nothing
djean111
Jan 2015
#26
His "stated" objectives are trade based. He does not address the Investor State giveaway.
djean111
Jan 2015
#35
It would allow the shysters to push prices on alreadt skyrocketing generics through the roof.
Faryn Balyncd
Jan 2015
#9
This is so simple for those who DO support Fast Track - thus supporting the TPP - just don't
djean111
Jan 2015
#27
In December, MSF together with the AFL-CIO, AARP and the Generic Pharmaceutical Association sent
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2015
#39