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Showing Original Post only (View all)How Snipers are Viewed by Soldiers: "Unacceptable to ordinary footsoldiers" [View all]
How Snipers are Viewed by Soldiersby mmankoff
I think it might be of interest to those attentive to the heated discussion regarding Clint Eastwood's film, American Sniper, and the varied responses to the protagonist to quote from Max Hastings' Armageddon on the perception of snipers from the perspective of the infantryman. Hastings, the pre-eminent military journalist/historian of WWII, author of many books on that conflict, focuses on the last year of the war in the European theatre and carefully examines the experiences and thoughts of those fighting on the ground for the American, British, Russian and German armies.
The following quotation is from page 88.
"Almost every soldier on both sides shared a hatred of snipers, which frequently caused them to be shot out of hand if captured. There was no logic or provision of the Geneva Convention to justify such action. Sniping merely represented the highest refinement of the infantry soldier's art. Its exercise required courage and skill. Yet, sniping made the random business of killing, in which they were all engaged, become somehow personal and thus unacceptable to ordinary footsoldiers."
The sniper is perceived as a different sort of person, even by fellow soldiers. That difference is not one which is admired, but produces a revulsion that crosses national boundaries.
If Hasting's observations from WWII still hold, when the infantrymen are volunteers and not simply conscripts, it may be that those who lionize the American sniper Eastwood depicts, only do so because they have not experienced him close and personal. If they did, they might have second thoughts.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/01/28/1360663/-How-Snipers-are-Viewed-by-Soldiers
btw, , sit down mr. eastwood, your chair is ready
mr pete read the book - says you left the TRUTH out.
He adds that it is also quite juvenile: "duck hunt with arabs".
from last year:
http://mpmacting.com/blog/2014/7/19/truth-justice-and-the-curious-case-of-chris-kyle
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How Snipers are Viewed by Soldiers: "Unacceptable to ordinary footsoldiers" [View all]
kpete
Jan 2015
OP
Since the topic is soldiering, tell us if you think our Infantry wants to eliminate the Sniper MOS
braddy
Jan 2015
#7
One can hear just about any story, or even make one up, stories don't count for much.
braddy
Jan 2015
#15
Well, there are a few other frivolous posts on this thread, I guess there is no update or research.
braddy
Jan 2015
#54
You have other means of what? The biggest portion of their mission is gathering intelligence
braddy
Jan 2015
#32
You also had snipers gathering intelligence, it has been described as up to 90% of their mission.
braddy
Jan 2015
#35
I get my information from reading and my military associations from my Army service from
braddy
Jan 2015
#44
A Navy SEAL, Scout Sniper, is hardly a coward. American Snipers tend to be braver, for instance
braddy
Jan 2015
#16
No, just a student of the military, warfare, and a veteran, that knows something about the duties of
braddy
Jan 2015
#27
Fine, if you never claimed that, then you would be correct, they are exceptionally brave.
braddy
Jan 2015
#34
I'm a retired Vet. SEALs aren't snipers unless they absolutely have to be. Nor are Rangers.
haele
Jan 2015
#56
Good Lord man, of course not all SEALs, or Special Forces, or Rangers are snipers, or
braddy
Jan 2015
#58
Why was that a brave act? What were we doing there? If shooting a General like that is a heroic
sabrina 1
Jan 2015
#47
The soldier's goal in war is to survive. Striking from outside the enemy's range
HereSince1628
Jan 2015
#20
"Our artillery . . . The Germans feared it almost more than anything we had." - Ernie Pyle
braddy
Jan 2015
#8
Are you kidding? Comparing a drone pilot back at base, with a man operating behind enemy lines?
braddy
Jan 2015
#17
One can be cutsy, but comparing sitting at a desk with being the kind of elite soldier that operates
braddy
Jan 2015
#22
The old, "unless it was hand to hand with a knife it was not real warfare" argument.
dilby
Jan 2015
#18