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djean111

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35. His "stated" objectives are trade based. He does not address the Investor State giveaway.

Wed Jan 28, 2015, 03:30 PM

Jan 2015

No country of origin labels. Higher prices for drugs, more difficult to have generics (which is why India says NO to joining the TPP). All government contracts over a dollar amount to be offered to all signatory countries (and this does not benefit us, and the contracts available from the ohter countries are wildly less lucrative. This will force bidders in the US to lower wages in order to compete. No Buy America. No saying no to Monsanto. Really great stuff, eh?

I don't think of him as "corrupt". I think of him as a Corporatist, not as a Democrat. Same for Hillary.
It looks as if he, too, really believes in trickle down.
I can't imagine why Obama would push for Fast Track - and then not sign the thing. That is really a stretch.

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Krugman has a pretty good answer for you: Faryn Balyncd Jan 2015 #4

Again, what is he basing that opinion on ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #12

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history ND-Dem Jan 2015 #24

History is the opposite of progress. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #30

so far as governments lying goes, there has been no "progress" in millenia. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #38

Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #40

You are correct. THe rhetoric you repeat above is nothing like what is contained in the agreement. rhett o rick Jan 2015 #5

There is no agreement yet, so it's silly to talk about "what's in it" Recursion Jan 2015 #6

Secrecy + Corporate Input + Fast Track + "Don't Talk about what's in it tell it's done" = OLIGARCHY Faryn Balyncd Jan 2015 #7

Bingo Populist_Prole Jan 2015 #8

if they obey tpp, the world will have drug prices as high as those in the US which are way ND-Dem Jan 2015 #25

Response to your first comment ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #13

Response to your first comment ... rhett o rick Jan 2015 #29

That's NOT a dodge ... It is a direct answer to your question ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #33

The discrepancy you cite is EXACTLY the point. Jim Lane Jan 2015 #10

+1 Good post BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #11

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I have not seen a single person expressing support for ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #16

Oh my... nt stillwaiting Jan 2015 #17

Well, at least not on DU ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #18

I consider support for Fast Track, in effect, support for the TPP. stillwaiting Jan 2015 #19

How? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #20

Fast Track means that, no matter what unsavory stuff is contained in the TPP - nothing djean111 Jan 2015 #26

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #31

The GOP is slavering for this agreement, because it enables corporations to djean111 Jan 2015 #32

The gop is slathering over this agreement ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #34

His "stated" objectives are trade based. He does not address the Investor State giveaway. djean111 Jan 2015 #35

Yes.He.Does ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #36

The analysis by Medecins Sans Frontieres (MSF) ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #15

I disagree with your criticisms of Medecins Sans Frontieres. Jim Lane Jan 2015 #21

because they've done so well so far at 'negotiating' prices with big pharma ND-Dem Jan 2015 #22

The US government hasn't been involved in ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #28

It would allow the shysters to push prices on alreadt skyrocketing generics through the roof. Faryn Balyncd Jan 2015 #9

+100 ND-Dem Jan 2015 #23

This is so simple for those who DO support Fast Track - thus supporting the TPP - just don't djean111 Jan 2015 #27

In December, MSF together with the AFL-CIO, AARP and the Generic Pharmaceutical Association sent Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #39