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braddy

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27. No, just a student of the military, warfare, and a veteran, that knows something about the duties of

Wed Jan 28, 2015, 04:43 PM

Jan 2015

SEALs and Scout snipers. This new claim that SEALs, and the SEAL snipers are cowards, is brand new, and it sure doesn't make any sense.

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How Snipers are Viewed by Soldiers: "Unacceptable to ordinary footsoldiers" [View all] kpete Jan 2015 OP

Do you think that our Infantry prefers to fight, without us having snipers? braddy Jan 2015 #1

Do you think our infantry prefers to fight illegal wars? Malraiders Jan 2015 #3

Since the topic is soldiering, tell us if you think our Infantry wants to eliminate the Sniper MOS braddy Jan 2015 #7

I remember reports and investigations of snipers placing a length of wire Malraiders Jan 2015 #11

One can hear just about any story, or even make one up, stories don't count for much. braddy Jan 2015 #15

A story based on fact: Malraiders Jan 2015 #51

Those are from 2007, what did the research into the claims end up revealing? braddy Jan 2015 #52

Research reveals that "stories" of snipers baiting innocents for death is Malraiders Jan 2015 #53

Well, there are a few other frivolous posts on this thread, I guess there is no update or research. braddy Jan 2015 #54

So, were these reports mere hearsay? Adrahil Jan 2015 #57

We get it whatchamacallit Jan 2015 #9

Thank you for the kind advice. nt Malraiders Jan 2015 #12

Huh? braddy Jan 2015 #13

^^^THIS^^^ Tom Ripley Jan 2015 #55

Yes most definitely I do Bandit Jan 2015 #23

You have other means of what? The biggest portion of their mission is gathering intelligence braddy Jan 2015 #32

We had LRRPs and Special forces teams for that Bandit Jan 2015 #33

You also had snipers gathering intelligence, it has been described as up to 90% of their mission. braddy Jan 2015 #35

The Marines call theirs Scout Snipers hack89 Jan 2015 #42

You get your information from movies, I get mine from real time action. Bandit Jan 2015 #36

I get my information from reading and my military associations from my Army service from braddy Jan 2015 #44

*snort* sarisataka Jan 2015 #64

What were we doing in Iraq do you think? sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #37

Well, they certainly didn't like the other side's snipers. Brickbat Jan 2015 #2

This is what Michael Moore was referring to in his own family riderinthestorm Jan 2015 #4

Nah - he was excoriated for being Michael Moore. Maedhros Jan 2015 #63

Yeah. Ok. His personal experience and family lore riderinthestorm Jan 2015 #67

You misunderstand. Maedhros Jan 2015 #72

Oops! So sorry! riderinthestorm Jan 2015 #74

It's my experience soldiers don't see themselves as warriors HereSince1628 Jan 2015 #5

I don't think it's that at all. Snipers were considered cowardly and cruel. Marr Jan 2015 #14

A Navy SEAL, Scout Sniper, is hardly a coward. American Snipers tend to be braver, for instance braddy Jan 2015 #16

I think you've watched too many Rambo movies. /nt Marr Jan 2015 #21

movies - "Suddenly" Locrian Jan 2015 #25

No, just a student of the military, warfare, and a veteran, that knows something about the duties of braddy Jan 2015 #27

Show me where I said that SEALs or snipers are cowards, please. Marr Jan 2015 #30

Fine, if you never claimed that, then you would be correct, they are exceptionally brave. braddy Jan 2015 #34

I'm a retired Vet. SEALs aren't snipers unless they absolutely have to be. Nor are Rangers. haele Jan 2015 #56

Good Lord man, of course not all SEALs, or Special Forces, or Rangers are snipers, or braddy Jan 2015 #58

Why was that a brave act? What were we doing there? If shooting a General like that is a heroic sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #47

The soldier's goal in war is to survive. Striking from outside the enemy's range HereSince1628 Jan 2015 #20

We're talking about lionizing snipers here. Marr Jan 2015 #26

The concept behind sniping is high-value and critical targeting HereSince1628 Jan 2015 #39

So he was talking about American snipers, or the other sides? oneshooter Jan 2015 #65

Lets put down our weapons and kill each other like civilized men FLPanhandle Jan 2015 #6

"Our artillery . . . The Germans feared it almost more than anything we had." - Ernie Pyle braddy Jan 2015 #8

That lines up with what my grandfather and uncles used to say. Marr Jan 2015 #10

Are you kidding? Comparing a drone pilot back at base, with a man operating behind enemy lines? braddy Jan 2015 #17

Are you insulting our heroic drone pilots? /nt Marr Jan 2015 #19

One can be cutsy, but comparing sitting at a desk with being the kind of elite soldier that operates braddy Jan 2015 #22

Honestly, "heroism" is a kinda ridiculous to argue about. Adrahil Jan 2015 #59

The old, "unless it was hand to hand with a knife it was not real warfare" argument. dilby Jan 2015 #18

We did not use them when I was a grunt Bandit Jan 2015 #28

Which war was this? n/t dilby Jan 2015 #29

Charlie didn't tip you off I guess Bandit Jan 2015 #31

Man named Hathcock would like a word Telcontar Jan 2015 #41

Bring him on... Bandit Jan 2015 #43

Heh, ok keyboard commando Telcontar Jan 2015 #46

Ever heard of Major Maguire or a Maguire Rig Bandit Jan 2015 #50

Ummm there WERE snipers in Vietnam Nam.... n/t Adrahil Jan 2015 #60

Here he is. oneshooter Jan 2015 #66

My step father was a sniper in Vietnam. dilby Jan 2015 #45

You never heard of snipers in Vietnam? braddy Jan 2015 #49

INFANTRY ????? DustyJoe Jan 2015 #62

And yet those same soldiers Codeine Jan 2015 #24

In Harry Craig's non-fictional work, Enemy at the Gates LanternWaste Jan 2015 #38

Soldiers hate the other side's snipers. hack89 Jan 2015 #40

Double plus this. n/t Adrahil Jan 2015 #61

Misleading OP hack89 Jan 2015 #48

The USMC had dedicated snipers and special rifles for them before WW2. oneshooter Jan 2015 #69

Marine Scout Snipers were envisioned primarily as reconnaissance units hack89 Jan 2015 #73

Yeah, we get it, you didn't like American Sniper. NuclearDem Jan 2015 #68

even in Team Fortress they're disliked (NSFW) MisterP Jan 2015 #70

A large part of a sniper's value in war is her/his ability to terrorize the enemy. Zorra Jan 2015 #71

I've met a sniper from my war madokie Jan 2015 #75

Whole bunch of sniper worship is evident in this thread. Unfortunate, but nothing new. (nt) Paladin Jan 2015 #76