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Octafish

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67. Secret Government and Secret Laws are un-American.

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 10:20 AM

Jan 2015

No Oversight means No Accountability and No Responsibility. It also means that the beneficiaries of all these secret laws, programs and deals are unknown. "Trust us" doesn't cut it when there's trillions to be made for secret agents.

Secret Government is an issue that cuts across ideological, party and class lines like nothing else. People aren't stupid. They see the rich keep getting richer and everyone else getting stuck with the tab. You should see my Republican friends' eyes light up when they discover NSA's main contractor Booz Allen Hamilton happens to be owned by Carlyle Group.

The keepers think that they can continue to get away with treason, conspiracy, crime and all the rest of their corruption. The crooks always thinks that.

When the People find out the truth, though, it's: "Goodnight, Corruption!" And like in Gdansk, the numbers will be "fix-proof."

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Yep..and we are supposed to cheer them on. Gets pretty old. n/t djean111 Jan 2015 #1

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Absolutely. n/t Ghost Dog Jan 2015 #51

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Great post! Thanks.. mountain grammy Jan 2015 #32

"1 percent owning 99 percent" DeSwiss Jan 2015 #53

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what? Locrian Jan 2015 #3

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sorry have to run Locrian Jan 2015 #22

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Corruption Is Now Officially Legal in the U.S., ''But Must Be Done Right'' Octafish Jan 2015 #44

It is so obvious JonLP24 Jan 2015 #10

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Either we revolt, or live with it, because it ain't gonna ever change without Zorra Jan 2015 #11

I agree JonLP24 Jan 2015 #17

Secret Government and Secret Laws are un-American. Octafish Jan 2015 #67

Corruption in America? How can it be corruption if it is legal? Fuck off, Europe, the media in Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #13

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"not news to anyone paying attention" - exactly. closeupready Jan 2015 #18

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K&R The more money Wall St has, the less democracy we experience. raouldukelives Jan 2015 #23

"Most people prefer money over democracy" = indeed ND-Dem Jan 2015 #62

K&R JEB Jan 2015 #24

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Jan 2015 #25

A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong gives it a superficial appearance of being right. Paine Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2015 #26

SO....that's what it is called laserhaas Jan 2015 #27

"the wealthy ultimately determine legislative outcomes in the US" We're owned! L0oniX Jan 2015 #28

K&R nt Duval Jan 2015 #30

And in the "duh" department, a link from the article: mountain grammy Jan 2015 #31

DSG turbinetree Jan 2015 #33

Oh, we don't call it corruption. We call it Free Speech Demeter Jan 2015 #35

Davos, where a bunch of billionaire, James Bond villains meet at a secretive mountain retreat....... LongTomH Jan 2015 #36

Thank you, LongTomH! That should be a few OPs. Octafish Jan 2015 #46

Of course it is a plutocracy, that is what the owners of America wanted and so that is what Rex Jan 2015 #38

Corruption Madmiddle Jan 2015 #39

that just silly talk... handmade34 Jan 2015 #63

Mutiny would be an effective remedy. Dont call me Shirley Jan 2015 #40

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Hang 'em high. hifiguy Jan 2015 #49

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Yes. Americans laugh about 'banana republics', yet that is just how we operate, too. closeupready Jan 2015 #65

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K&R. nt tblue37 Jan 2015 #55

That picture says it all about Capitalism in the US Ramses Jan 2015 #56

I believe "legalized corruption" is the best way to put it... MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #57

That's exactly why they made money into "free speech" Beartracks Jan 2015 #58

DC is a racket. blkmusclmachine Jan 2015 #61

citi called it a plutonomy in 2005 and on and on it goes... Agony Jan 2015 #64

thanks, Octafish. righteous as always. nt navarth Jan 2015 #66

Was there any question? NaturalHigh Jan 2015 #69

Better late than never... CanSocDem Jan 2015 #70