This Is How A Police State Protects “Secrets” - Marcy Wheeler/Salon

[sabrina 1]

135. Well, I have never seen any evidence that those Americans were guilty of anything. A teenager going

to a party doesn't strike me as worthy of the DP, no matter what country he is partying in.

Of course there is a better solution. You mentioned it in the post I first responded to.

Secret 'kill lists' is not part of our laws. Thankfully.

Sad, I thought for a minute you would be consistent regarding the application of the Rule of Law. I still oppose vehemently, Bush's claims, once strenuously opposed at least on the Left, and in fact by more rational people on the Right, that the President has a right to slap the label 'terrorist' on someone and that's all we need to know before the DP is administered, skipping all that in between stuff, like Habeus Corpus'. I remember eloquent speeches from some of our Dems in Congress regarding this frightening destruction of our judicial system..

My 'solution' really isn't mine, it comes people far wiser and way more intelligent, it is that the Rule of Law should be applied to all human beings, due process is one of the founding principles that differentiates a civilized society from a primitive society.

You can find these principles laid out in the Geneva Conventions and in our own Constitution.

Where the notion that the President alone can administer the DP to anyone he decides is a 'terrorist', without charges, without due process, is written down, I have no idea.

Perhaps in the Document that apparently was a replacement for the US Constitution? The Patriot Act?

I wonder how all this giving away of 'our Freedoms' has made us any safer. According to both Feinstein and Rogers (Intel Committees) we are in MORE danger today than ever before.

For those of us who are not willing to allow the 'terrorists to take away our freedoms' this is no surprise.

Thanks for your response.