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41. It's hard to tell. The German journalist who stayed with them

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 04:09 PM

Jan 2015

said there are whole towns where you don't hear Arabic, just European and other languages.

The NYT back in 2007 also said that "Al Baghadi" was probably a fictional character invented to disguise the fact that most of them were foreigners. (Yes, we've seen video of him giving a sermon in Mosul, but there's no guarantee that he's the actual leader or that that's his name).

So it's possible that at this point in time the Iraqis are a subject population under occupation of foreign criminals and psychopaths (and that's what reports coming out of those areas seem to indicate, but again it's hard to tell from our vantage point).

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Amy Goodman asked the right question on ISIS and Boxer dodged it [View all] yurbud Jan 2015 OP

Way to go, Amy. Dont call me Shirley Jan 2015 #1

Weasel words are the stock and trade of politicians. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2015 #2

Extremely disappointing coming from Boxer. Scuba Jan 2015 #3

I saw that yesterday deutsey Jan 2015 #4

And the stock in trade of those trying to explain 'WAR', the use of women to emotionally manipulate sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #13

The Elephant in the Room.... bvar22 Jan 2015 #50

so many follow up questions: Why are we saying guys who created problem will help solve it? yurbud Jan 2015 #58

I didn't see or hear that interview, but just reading it makes Boxer look... stillwaiting Jan 2015 #16

Let's face it, the political class on both sides think we are stupid. zeemike Jan 2015 #21

Another case for term limits Plucketeer Jan 2015 #23

Let's face it, the politicians know we're stupid obxhead Jan 2015 #24

There are benefits to making politics distasteful and contentious. zeemike Jan 2015 #31

That is the exact intent. obxhead Jan 2015 #48

Isn't that the point aspirant Jan 2015 #55

It appeared to be nothing but lies and slogans arcane1 Jan 2015 #26

K&R for visibility - TBF Jan 2015 #5

It's a lot further back than that. jeff47 Jan 2015 #9

Thank you - TBF Jan 2015 #11

Ah, but there's the rub. Where should they have 'originally been drawn' and who KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #15

The locals. jeff47 Jan 2015 #19

The ISIS people are interlopers, foreign fighters CJCRANE Jan 2015 #25

Depends on which country you're talking about and which territory you're talking about. jeff47 Jan 2015 #28

It's hard to tell. The German journalist who stayed with them CJCRANE Jan 2015 #41

one of two things is going on: Saudi is a loose cannon OR they are doing our elite favors with the yurbud Jan 2015 #27

I maintain that as long as there is oil TBF Jan 2015 #47

Libya too. bvar22 Jan 2015 #59

The problem if our elites don't realize there are limits to what even a dictator like Saddam yurbud Jan 2015 #60

really disappointed... dhill926 Jan 2015 #6

So, what should we do to Saudi Arabia? jeff47 Jan 2015 #7

There is nothing on this Earth that would make the Saudis happier ... staggerleem Jan 2015 #14

honesty about the Saudi role in 9/11 would be a good start to develop some public trust yurbud Jan 2015 #30

To what end? jeff47 Jan 2015 #34

it won't, but it might shock people into switching from oil a lot sooner than they otherwise would yurbud Jan 2015 #35

Except we've got plenty of other places to buy oil from. jeff47 Jan 2015 #38

I've long posted about my "lesser of two evils" view of pipeline & fracking JonLP24 Jan 2015 #61

We cannot know for certain that is what they are doing or if they are just deftly manipulating yurbud Jan 2015 #36

They tamp it down whenever it threatens them, or gets in the way of selling oil. jeff47 Jan 2015 #39

they could also be two separate and somewhat unrelated things: their domestic unrest and yurbud Jan 2015 #40

You'd think Boxer was some real progressive when you hear her talk dirtydickcheney Jan 2015 #8

California can do so much better! BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #10

we'll find out soon enough frylock Jan 2015 #29

Hopefully it won't turn into another Trojan Horse situation BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #49

and now Boxer is the Chuck Todd of Senators. "i'll leave that to you" RE: the truth. TeamPooka Jan 2015 #12

When 9/11 happened, the Bush administration at first said, "Follow the money," but cut that short tclambert Jan 2015 #17

yep yurbud Jan 2015 #33

Amy is a top notch reporter and Duval Jan 2015 #18

boxer obviously shocked to be asked a real question by a real journalist KG Jan 2015 #20

When the door hits Boxer squarely in the ass I'll celebrate. obxhead Jan 2015 #22

pols are free to do what they want on social issues as long as it doesn't interfere with big money yurbud Jan 2015 #37

Boxer had absolutely nothing to lose in answering the question honestly.. frylock Jan 2015 #32

it tells you how big the dogs are that want war yurbud Jan 2015 #44

Color me disgusted and dismayed. lark Jan 2015 #42

She doesn't have to look. She knows. yurbud Jan 2015 #46

I heard that Boxer is leaving the Senate pathansen Jan 2015 #43

Yes, Boxer is retiring. Utopian Leftist Jan 2015 #45

It would be nice if Sen. Feinstein were retiring, too. How come Californians keep on voting for Cal33 Jan 2015 #51

No other democrats run abelenkpe Jan 2015 #53

I too would be happy to see Feinstein replaced with a true liberal. Utopian Leftist Jan 2015 #54

Boxer does a better job of looking progressive, which is why I posted this yurbud Jan 2015 #57

"I’m a senator. My people are threatened, and I’m going to take action." abelenkpe Jan 2015 #52

a handful of people are beheaded. That's something the police would handle if it were domestic. yurbud Jan 2015 #56

I recommend reading everything there is to know JonLP24 Jan 2015 #62

I've read some of the Sibel Edmonds stuff. Do you have a link to the part you're thinking of yurbud Jan 2015 #63

Mainly that the US has maintained a relationship with OBL JonLP24 Jan 2015 #64