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Fri Jan 30, 2015, 05:01 AM

245. You are of course free to support whosoever you choose~!

I just don't think Warren will run no matter how much people try to persuade her. I think she enjoys the "buzz" because it helps her national profile and it garners more support for her agenda, but I think she has a better sense of her abilities -- and her desires -- than many of her "Wishful POTUS" fans do.

Hillary (and her "baggage" have been well vetted--every complaint that even people here on DU try to make is "asked and answered." Those who support her aren't going to be dismayed by old news. OTOH, Warren, who has NOT been nationally vetted, would be CRUCIFIED. Her first marriage would be torn to shreds, as would her second (she started in with her present husband before she divorced her first one--the religious right would have a field day). The whole "Pow Wow The Indian Girl/Fauxahantas" shit would be dredged up again (and boy, was that RACIST, and UGLY, and NASTY--had not Brown been such a smarmy, sexist shit, that could have been the end for her).

She may be inspiring on the stump, but she barely beat back Brown in debate. He's as dumb as two posts, but he was more comfortable at the podium than she was for many of their exchanges--it was only when he started pushing his luck and calling her "Per-fesser" that the tide started to turn--but my analysis of her debating skills is "She's not that great." She does give a rousing stump speech, but those can take one only so far.

Most importantly, though, Warren is not fundraising, hasn't developed a fifty state strategy, has ZERO ground game, no local contacts in states, no mechanism to mount a campaign, and she has said NO over and over and over and over again. I think that, right there, is a BIG clue. If she was wanting to be cute and coy and play the "No means yes" game, she wouldn't have issued the "STOP RAISING MONEY" letter through her lawyer. What does she have to do to get people to listen to her, I wonder?



Elizabeth Warren has worked with Marco Rubio and Orrin Hatch and other wingnuts on legislative issues of import to her. That doesn't mean she is adopting their views and beliefs. Politicians deal with all sorts of people--they even get their pictures taken together. I think it's funny how the one with the short record of less than one term in the Senate gets a pass, but the one with actual experience of multiple terms in the Senate and as the senior member of the President's Cabinet gets dissed at every turn. It's like "We love you so long as you don't have a record. Or EXPERIENCE." That's no way to run a country.

I could say I don't like the close relationship between Senator Warren and registration with the Republican Party as recently as the MID-NINETIES, but that would be one of those "guilt by old association" games. In actual fact, I like Senator Warren just fine, I don't really care that she was a Republican in 1996 (that's probably why a few of the sexist jerks in MA turned away from Moron Brown and voted for her, to be blunt) --she's doing well in Ted's seat, she's acquitting herself well as a servant of the citizens of the Bay State, and that is where she should STAY.

Until, perhaps, she's appointed as Fed Chair....?

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