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pampango

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42. The Real Roots of Sexism in the Middle East (It's Not Islam, Race, or 'Hate')
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 08:05 PM
Apr 2012

Picture a woman in the Middle East, and probably the first thing that comes into your mind will be the hijab. You might not even envision a face, just the black shroud of the burqa or the niqab. Women's rights in the mostly Arab countries of the region are among the worst in the world, but it's more than that. As Egyptian-American journalist Mona Eltahawy writes in a provocative cover story for Foreign Policy, misogyny has become so endemic to Arab societies that it's not just a war on women, it's a destructive force tearing apart Arab economies and societies. But why? How did misogyny become so deeply ingrained in the Arab world?

There are two general ways to think about the problem of misogyny in the Arab world. The first is to think of it as an Arab problem, an issue of what Arab societies and people are doing wrong.

But is it really that simple? If that misogyny is so innately Arab, why is there such wide variance between Arab societies? Why did Egypt's hateful "they" elect only 2 percent women to its post-revolutionary legislature, while Tunisia's hateful "they" elected 27 percent, far short of half but still significantly more than America's 17 percent? Why are so many misogynist Arab practices as or more common in the non-Arab societies of sub-Saharan Africa or South Asia?

A number of Arab Muslim feminists have criticized the article as reinforcing reductive, Western perceptions of Arabs as particularly and innately barbaric. Nahed Eltantawy accused the piece of representing Arab women "as the Oriental Other, weak, helpless and submissive, oppressed by Islam and the Muslim male, this ugly, barbaric monster."

The other way to think about misogyny in the Arab world is as a problem of misogyny. As the above rankings show, culturally engrained sexism is not particular to Arab societies. In other words, it's a problem that Arab societies have, but it's not a distinctly Arab problem. The actual, root causes are disputed, complicated, and often controversial. But you can't cure a symptom without at least acknowledging the disease, and that disease is not race, religion, or ethnicity.

Some of the most important architects of institutionalized Arab misogyny weren't actually Arab. They were Turkish -- or, as they called themselves at the time, Ottoman -- British, and French. These foreigners ruled Arabs for centuries, twisting the cultures to accommodate their dominance. One of their favorite tricks was to buy the submission of men by offering them absolute power over women. ... Colonial powers employed it in the Middle East, sub-Saharan Africa, and in South Asia, promoting misogynist ideas and misogynist men who might have otherwise stayed on the margins, slowly but surely ingraining these ideas into the societies.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/04/the-real-roots-of-sexism-in-the-middle-east-its-not-islam-race-or-hate/256362/

Does "to enact" mean to imply that passage is likely? jberryhill Apr 2012 #1
Very likely B2G Apr 2012 #6
So? jberryhill Apr 2012 #43
CSM: Egypt 'necrophilia law'? Hooey, utter hooey (Don't believe everything you read on the Internet, pampango Apr 2012 #45
ah but as you read the thread there aresome DUer's azurnoir Apr 2012 #47
Kinda interesting what spills out on these occasions jberryhill Apr 2012 #48
Does the DM need to remind people that Egypt is Islamist? Was this a particular sub-sect of Islam patrice Apr 2012 #2
Are you trying to deflect the story to the DM? Other media as well as snagglepuss Apr 2012 #8
Not just Islamist dominated B2G Apr 2012 #10
You ain't seen nothing yet! Spoonman Apr 2012 #20
Ditto B2G Apr 2012 #21
The "cause mob" mentality Spoonman Apr 2012 #25
No. Just needing a little more information, because I'm curious about whether they have patrice Apr 2012 #11
The MB was a major force behind the Arab Spring B2G Apr 2012 #17
Making friends with PNAC in that agenda? That has to do with how political they are relative to patrice Apr 2012 #19
Well, Egypt had a lot of Muslims, but it prided itself -- before Mubarak was deposed--on being a MADem Apr 2012 #9
No different than what the "pro-democracy" protestors in Syria want (eom) eissa Apr 2012 #3
Yup, and what "pro-democracy revolutionaries" are bringing to Libya, Sudan, Morocco etc nt riderinthestorm Apr 2012 #7
Be careful of generalizations. tabatha Apr 2012 #13
And yet? atreides1 Apr 2012 #4
cause i know having sex with a dead wife will maintain the family bond. i was afraid seabeyond Apr 2012 #5
What a clusterfuck. Hell Hath No Fury Apr 2012 #12
Sweeping statement tabatha Apr 2012 #14
You may want to read this: Why do they hate us? riderinthestorm Apr 2012 #15
That was a terrific article leftynyc Apr 2012 #16
I was just about to post that too. Thanks. nt redqueen Apr 2012 #18
I just read the article at that link. hifiguy Apr 2012 #37
So someone actually argued for the right to commit necrophilia? 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #22
More importantly, women are being stripped of their rights B2G Apr 2012 #23
I expected that women would lose whatever rights they had 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #27
Although women will get the brunt of it, it won't be just them eissa Apr 2012 #28
Oh no doubt, the whole thing is awful all around 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #29
It's not so much a right of necrophilia (though that is how it is enacted) etherealtruth Apr 2012 #41
Reading this brought back memories of sitting in Ancient Egyptian History class LibertyLover Apr 2012 #24
Why would the men want to have sex with a dead person? Is that simply a perversion that is ladjf Apr 2012 #26
Seriously, is that something people do, and don't talk about? closeupready Apr 2012 #30
you don't have use all your rights granted by the state Johonny Apr 2012 #33
Hey, man. You have a dark sense of humor. nt ladjf Apr 2012 #51
They sound like great guys badtoworse Apr 2012 #31
It's just another bit of propaganda in the same vein of... Quantess Apr 2012 #32
What is propaganda? B2G Apr 2012 #34
I responded to post #31 Quantess Apr 2012 #36
Fundamentalist religion of the Abrahamic sort hifiguy Apr 2012 #35
I've read passage is very unlikely; only a tiny minority wants this law. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #38
Which law? The law making divorce make difficult for women. the law enabling marriage at snagglepuss Apr 2012 #39
The fuck dead wives law. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #49
You are correct jberryhill Apr 2012 #44
Wow, what a de-evolution that would be. Rex Apr 2012 #40
The Real Roots of Sexism in the Middle East (It's Not Islam, Race, or 'Hate') pampango Apr 2012 #42
So all fault gets deflected elsewhere. Got it. snagglepuss Apr 2012 #46
It's Islam. Just like it's Christianity with the GOP woman-haters. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #50
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