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stevenleser

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57. Everyone knows I'm for Hillary, but I think Bernie stumping would be good for Democrats.

Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:26 PM

Jan 2015

He wouldn't beat Hillary and I don't think he would attack her. But having him go around and frame the issues as well as he does would be a great thing.

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Why is the left so focused on Warren when Bernie Sanders is actively considering running? [View all] Tom Rinaldo Jan 2015 OP

I know in my case I actually want to be able to vote and support liberal and progressive democratic ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #1

Citizens United was decided by a closely split supreme Court Tom Rinaldo Jan 2015 #4

I'd say it's almost a lock that Hillary would, relatively early in her Presidency, Maedhros Jan 2015 #40

You need to educate yourself about nationwide elections. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #5

Then we will have nothing but corporate presidents so you might as well embrace the fascism now! ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #6

The winning candidate in 2016 will spend over $1 billion. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #9

Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah.....Voting for the lessor of 2 evils is still evil no matter how you spin it ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #13

You are incredibly short sighted and your way resulted in Bush. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #15

MMMMM people like me huh let you in on a little secret, I have been voting straight Democratic ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #16

You can have a democratic bad dream or a Republican nightmare Ichingcarpenter Jan 2015 #22

Actually the nightmare is the number of Democrats that support republican policies and canidates ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #28

welcome to neo liberal underground Ichingcarpenter Jan 2015 #33

What is funny if sooooo many democrats are going to vote for her, over 80% ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #36

Welcome to irrelevancy! FrodosPet Jan 2015 #54

To some here my vote is irrelevant but to the Democratic Party I am relevant because I can and have ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #68

Actually, it was *you're way* that resulted in Bush. Marr Jan 2015 #44

Nope, left wingers for Nader led directly to Bush. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #45

You know, there's a word for people who repeat things that have been proven false. Marr Jan 2015 #48

IT has NEVER been proven false because it is absolutely the reason Bush won. eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #49

Kathrine Harris and the Supreme Court stole it for Bush. morningfog Jan 2015 #61

Assuming you are correct, and I have never been convinced that is absolutely the case. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #62

What part are you unconvinced of? morningfog Jan 2015 #63

I am not convinced that Al Gore got more votes in Florida than George Bush. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #64

Fucking lie that you know is false LondonReign2 Jan 2015 #84

The only lie is saying Nader was not the reason we got Bush. eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #85

The lie, that your ilk like to repeat, is that all it always the left's fault. LondonReign2 Jan 2015 #86

It WAS the left's fault. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #87

You'd be perfect for Fox, where repeating the same lie over and over is praise worthy LondonReign2 Jan 2015 #88

The only lie that's being repeated is that Nader voters were not responsible for Bush. eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #89

I like Warren, her time is not right. Besides the GOP is trying to push people to get her to run. nt TheBlackAdder Jan 2015 #83

I think Bernie rocks libodem Jan 2015 #2

Because few believe Sanders has any reasonable chance of winning. n/t PoliticAverse Jan 2015 #3

I understand that... Tom Rinaldo Jan 2015 #8

Bernie has my support 100%. HappyMe Jan 2015 #14

We will too. n/t benz380 Jan 2015 #20

Good guestion. I am always upset when we see the polls that show how Hillary is doing against jwirr Jan 2015 #7

But it is a chicken-and-egg question malthaussen Jan 2015 #12

Hillary's not a declared candidate either. Jackpine Radical Jan 2015 #19

Sure, but the difference is that the pollsters WANT Hillary malthaussen Jan 2015 #21

I think that giving air time to any anti-Wall St. campaign is adangerous game for them, Jackpine Radical Jan 2015 #30

I've pretty much resigned myself to the Pitchfork Brigade malthaussen Jan 2015 #35

I pretty much share your view of the Overlords. Jackpine Radical Jan 2015 #37

Problem is, in the 1930's there were still voices of reason on the Right, malthaussen Jan 2015 #39

On the other hand, the Internet has granted common people greater communication resources Jackpine Radical Jan 2015 #47

That was a great moment in solidarity, agreed... malthaussen Jan 2015 #52

I agree with you and Jackpine -- this edifice is going to lumber on until it Nay Jan 2015 #58

I wonder if the French aristocrats were this blind to the future before they became the victims of jwirr Jan 2015 #67

And this is why the flying monkeys are launched every time someone mentions Warren or Sanders. winter is coming Jan 2015 #72

We should treat all Presidential Campaign polls as "push polls" right now. [n/t] Maedhros Jan 2015 #42

Bernie Sanders is incapable of raising the $1 billion that will be necessary to win the presidency. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #10

I think I address concerns over his relative viability in post #8 above n/t Tom Rinaldo Jan 2015 #11

"He simply does not have the fund raising chops to be president." PAProgressive28 Jan 2015 #29

Until we can get rid of Citizens United, it's the political reality. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #31

Agree PAProgressive28 Jan 2015 #32

It's a reality we all need to face, whether we like it or not. That's why electing a BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #46

Relative 'dynamism,' imo, Tom. elleng Jan 2015 #17

Beats me. KamaAina Jan 2015 #18

Thank you. Finally someone else says it. PAProgressive28 Jan 2015 #23

Because they want a woman. Yo_Mama Jan 2015 #24

To me, that's a big shame. HappyMe Jan 2015 #34

Keep in mind, many trolls are weighing in to the discussion as well. apples and oranges Jan 2015 #25

Yep. And the always rebellious Left are like sheep to the Republican/GOP slaughter. BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #50

Bernie Sanders cannot possibly win. Dreamer Tatum Jan 2015 #26

Eugene McCarthy couldn't win either Tom Rinaldo Jan 2015 #41

America has a bad case of "ageism". nt ladjf Jan 2015 #27

Sanders is 73, Hillary is 67 & Warren is 65 Yo_Mama Jan 2015 #38

because Warren is a registered Dem and Bernie isn't ... yet ... Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2015 #43

+1000 Agnosticsherbet Jan 2015 #53

Great post. It's almost like Senator Warren is being used as a "strawman" to deflect Zorra Jan 2015 #51

The path to a Warren presidency opens through a Sanders candidacy Tom Rinaldo Jan 2015 #55

I prefer Bernie on the issues daredtowork Jan 2015 #56

Everyone knows I'm for Hillary, but I think Bernie stumping would be good for Democrats. stevenleser Jan 2015 #57

I agree. He would be excellent at putting out some important issues. Chemisse Jan 2015 #76

I'm probably wrong as ussual but... olddots Jan 2015 #59

IMO. He can't win. outside Jan 2015 #60

I think the opposite would happen. Hillary would move toward the center. stevenleser Jan 2015 #65

I agree. Hillary would most likely move to the center during the primary, and... stillwaiting Jan 2015 #70

Hey, Hillary was one of the last major Democrats to endorse marriage equality, for 17 years she Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #82

She wouldn't have to move to the center against Sanders Tom Rinaldo Jan 2015 #74

Why? That's easy Android3.14 Jan 2015 #66

Well to run in the Democratic primaries he has to run as a Democrat Tom Rinaldo Jan 2015 #69

Unlike Warren, Sanders has never been a Republican, much less a Reagan/Bush Supply Side Republican Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #80

Me too. And I like Warren. mmonk Jan 2015 #71

I think you greatly overstate the ability of Bernie Sanders to win in a general election. mythology Jan 2015 #73

I never said I thought he could win the election. Tom Rinaldo Jan 2015 #75

Without reading past the subject line madokie Jan 2015 #77

"Run Bernie Run" fredamae Jan 2015 #78

Perhaps the question poised to those who are pushing for Warren and Bernie be ask why are they so Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #79

Love Liz , wish she would run. Bernie has my support and my vote. Autumn Jan 2015 #81

That's a really good question (nt) Recursion Jan 2015 #90

Fear of being red-baited, perhaps? Sanders styles himself a 'Socialist' (even though the label KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #91