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Showing Original Post only (View all)Former Director of NSA & CIA: "I didn't need to ask 'mother, may I' from Congress or president" [View all]
Former Director of NSA & CIA: I interpret the Constitution -- not the courts.
Hayden's entire speech can be viewed here:
In a speech at Washington and Lee University, Michael Hayden, a former head of both the CIA and NSA, opined on signals intelligence under the Constitution, arguing that what the 4th Amendment forbids changed after September 11, 2001. He noted that "unreasonable search and seizure," is prohibited under the Constitution, but cast it as a living document, with "reasonableness" determined by "the totality of circumstances in which we find ourselves in history."
He explained that as the NSA's leader, tactics he found unreasonable on September 10, 2001 struck him as reasonable the next day, after roughly 3,000 were killed. "I actually started to do different things," he said. "And I didn't need to ask 'mother, may I' from the Congress or the president or anyone else. It was within my charter, but in terms of the mature judgment about what's reasonable and what's not reasonable, the death of 3,000 countrymen kind of took me in a direction over here, perfectly within my authority, but a different place than the one in which I was located before the attacks took place. So if we're going to draw this line I think we have to understand that it's kind of a movable feast here."
Does this translate to: "Ve know vhat iss gut for you Untermenschen. Trust us."
http://news.yahoo.com/former-nsa-director-nsa-doesnt-just-listen-bad-110000822.htmlhttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/01/31/1361382/-Former-Director-of-NSA-CIA-I-interpret-the-Constitution-not-the-courts
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Former Director of NSA & CIA: "I didn't need to ask 'mother, may I' from Congress or president" [View all]
kpete
Jan 2015
OP
I've often wondered why Hayden wasn't fired or indicted after 9/11 and the Iraq WMD frauds
leveymg
Jan 2015
#2
He is a member of the Deep State and can not be fired by the President. nm
rhett o rick
Jan 2015
#11
Throw the slimy bastard in jail for treason as well as lying under oath to congress repeatedly
peacebird
Jan 2015
#4
Silly argument, like saying we have not stopped car accidents with controlling speed.
Thinkingabout
Jan 2015
#8
Can you imagine if every person who works for government agencies has to ask Congress
Thinkingabout
Jan 2015
#7
It is a point, can you imagine asking "may I' before doing anything every day and it would have to
Thinkingabout
Jan 2015
#18
Not everyone has to crow about what they do, do you hear a policeman running out everyday saying
Thinkingabout
Jan 2015
#19
You finish your post with all the answers I need from you, I am honest. The ridiculous interpertion
Thinkingabout
Jan 2015
#35
You are defending a person who is in charge of an agency that states he answers to no one?
Autumn
Jan 2015
#16
Did you ask "may I" before you posted? Can you be trusted to ask "may I" before your activity
Thinkingabout
Jan 2015
#20
Good, since so much spinning goes on sometimes there is a need to see a larger picture.
Thinkingabout
Jan 2015
#22
Changed my mind. I'm not going to do that, Too many posters work on getting good DUers to ignore
Autumn
Jan 2015
#24
I was pointing out how ridiculous the "may I" really is, who expects anyone to ask "may I"?
Thinkingabout
Jan 2015
#25
You skip over his assertion that he interprets the Constitution. That is no fucking "may I".
Autumn
Jan 2015
#26
Maybe you interpret the Constitution differently than he does or even the SC, the end decision
Thinkingabout
Jan 2015
#27
You are trying an argument that would suit my 6th grade Granddaughter and her friends.
Autumn
Jan 2015
#29
My point exactly, this argument NSA is not following the Constitution can be understood by even
Thinkingabout
Jan 2015
#31
You don't have a point, at least a point relevant to what Hayden said in the video. This is NOT
Autumn
Jan 2015
#33
Bush and Rumsfeld knew the protocol too and nothing stopped them from doing their job either.
Autumn
Jan 2015
#43
It was dumb to think the president and congress has time to answer every question
Thinkingabout
Feb 2015
#57
Who was the half-wit who implied every government employee should be required to do that?
LanternWaste
Feb 2015
#55
The hubris of the powerful and sociopathic is in evidence. Public servant isn't.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jan 2015
#13
The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants. Albert Camus
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jan 2015
#28