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TheBlackAdder

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1. When you say older pilots... Most commercial planes were fly-by-wire for 40 years or more.
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 01:54 AM
Feb 2015

Anyone who is a commercial airline pilot, who is actively flying these days, all were trained that way.

The problem is where they were trained. A lot of people train in the South because the weather is nicer all year round, but that leads to problems when they fly up North, where various icing occurs. It's a question where the pilots were trained and how they were trained that is paramount. Pilots are trained to handle spatial disorientation and trust the instruments. It's only when they believe those instruments are lying, is where they try to override it. Frozen pitots are common and flying into a thunderhead causes a multitude of false signals. When experiencing spatial disorientation, which I was trained to do as a young pup who never became an airline pilot after going for training (due to the depressing life of pilots - living out of a suitcase, the slog gaining hours, and the rampant alcoholism back in the early 80's). You can think you are straight and level when in a 30 degree dive.

So, my bet is on the level and type of training.

Oh, and as for the ageism portion... I'd trust a pilot in their 50's, whose seen everything hundreds of times.

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When you say older pilots... Most commercial planes were fly-by-wire for 40 years or more. TheBlackAdder Feb 2015 #1
Why did that pilot throw the breakers and turn off the computer over the Java Sea? CK_John Feb 2015 #3
Who knows? I wasn't there and I wasn't privy to his thoughts. TheBlackAdder Feb 2015 #4
Can you provide a link to this information please? Capt.Rocky300 Feb 2015 #7
Link: CK_John Feb 2015 #8
I've read several news articles on the crash......... Capt.Rocky300 Feb 2015 #9
No, not at all. Major Hogwash Feb 2015 #2
Some of the instrumentation is more reliable than humans jberryhill Feb 2015 #5
That's just your opinion. Major Hogwash Feb 2015 #11
That's just your opinion. GGJohn Feb 2015 #12
A nice myth but even the AF admits humans can't take the potential G force of todays fighters. CK_John Feb 2015 #6
Your argument is a myth, it is built on a false premise. Major Hogwash Feb 2015 #10
G suits have been around for decades now to counter G forces, GGJohn Feb 2015 #13
Testing of pilotless F16's and the introduction of driveless cars will bring this topic front and CK_John Feb 2015 #14
Any set of instruments or automation can fail FLPanhandle Feb 2015 #15
The problem is that the pilots spend the time trying to fix the computer. Savannahmann Feb 2015 #18
The problem is that the exchange of information is very poor. Savannahmann Feb 2015 #16
I know, I just answered, but.... Savannahmann Feb 2015 #17
A skilled and experienced pilot will know how the FBW computer works. backscatter712 Feb 2015 #19
IMO, the last several post high lights the human problem, which is more important CK_John Feb 2015 #20
I would disagree. Savannahmann Feb 2015 #21
I respect your opinion but... the world is moving to total automation and the bean counters are in CK_John Feb 2015 #22
The problem is this. Savannahmann Feb 2015 #23
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