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Sunlei

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107. its good that breeder does the hip/eye/elbow clearances. But that is all they do, except breed dogs.

Reply to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #82)

Sun Feb 1, 2015, 09:08 AM

Feb 2015

Very nice conformation pedigrees on the breeding stock they purchased from the even more reputable foreign breeders.

Don't expect a golden to be a guard dog, they typically aren't a very noisy breed. The conformation bloodlines usually aren't even very active, although the field trial bloodlines usually are more active.

you probably can get another puppy from those same breeders, they're still online selling puppies from their 26 acres in California. still just one 'stud dog' named Charlie but he has those 3 minimum clearances, plus a heart clearance-an additional very important clearance for golden breeding stock.

Or you could go to 'Charlie's' breeder and get a puppy from them. Unless Charlie is one of theirs too, the pedigree is a bit confusing. http://www.englishwhitegoldenretrieverpuppiesforsale.com/#!charlie/ck2s

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There's nothing wrong with that GoDaddy Puppy Ad (that was pulled from Superbowl) [View all] apples and oranges Jan 2015 OP

"If someone didn't sell a dog to you you wouldn't have one" LordGlenconner Jan 2015 #1

So the animal shelter did not charge you for the Animal? dilby Jan 2015 #19

More likely the dog was purchased from a rescue group LordGlenconner Jan 2015 #25

It was the Oregon Humane Society dilby Jan 2015 #34

HUmane Societies are rescue groups LordGlenconner Jan 2015 #39

Is it really worth it to you to get a particular breed at the price of not only not saving a life Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #86

Not all breeders are terrible. dilby Feb 2015 #139

Oregon Humane Society is great, they are part of our National Humane Society. heres their 990. Sunlei Feb 2015 #110

I paid 150 for a 7 year old dog from the bide a wee shelter hollysmom Jan 2015 #66

The local shleter charges a fee, but you get a certificate that is good for vet services csziggy Jan 2015 #72

In my parts, you have to pay the shelter for shots, etc. wyldwolf Jan 2015 #23

Yes, that is common and it's generally a nominal fee LordGlenconner Jan 2015 #27

$250 - 500 isn't a "nominal" fee. nt pnwmom Jan 2015 #60

it covers the costs of quarantine, vet care and, in the case of dogs rescued from out of state, magical thyme Feb 2015 #101

I understand the cost. But that is one reason there aren't enough adopters, in places where pnwmom Feb 2015 #116

there are numerous rescue organizations, often associated with specific breeds, that bring the dogs magical thyme Feb 2015 #118

It isn't nearly as easy to get a particular kind of dog in my area as you think, because pnwmom Feb 2015 #119

sometimes it's a matter of being willing to wait and watch. magical thyme Feb 2015 #120

You didn't search for young poodles within 100 miles. We want a puppy we can train. But even pnwmom Feb 2015 #121

first you claim that $250-300 isn't "nominal"; then that you "understand the costs" magical thyme Feb 2015 #123

The bottom line is that there are very few young poodles within a reasonable viewing distance, pnwmom Feb 2015 #124

the point is the adoption fee is no higher than what the ordinary expenses would be of magical thyme Feb 2015 #125

We agree -- irresponsible breeders and puppy mills are the problem. pnwmom Feb 2015 #126

price your Vet the costs just to neuter & vaccines a dog. you'll see, '$250ish' fee is a bargain Sunlei Feb 2015 #104

I don't think THEY consider it a sale, since it's to cover all their costs Chemisse Feb 2015 #105

we got ours on a valentines day special d_r Jan 2015 #55

that doesn't mean you paid for the dog though hfojvt Feb 2015 #98

Sure it does wyldwolf Feb 2015 #99

amd I usually goto the vet and pay much more hfojvt Feb 2015 #122

Unless you walk out of shelter with the same amount of money you walked in with... wyldwolf Feb 2015 #131

All the animals I've ever taken home from the pound have cost $. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2015 #26

Ever bought a dog from a breeder? LordGlenconner Jan 2015 #28

Big $, little $, medium $... it's still $. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2015 #33

I disagree with your contention that these are sales LordGlenconner Jan 2015 #42

Here's what a sale is to me... cherokeeprogressive Jan 2015 #48

No one is objecting to the sale of dogs jberryhill Jan 2015 #58

Smartest and most responsible answer I have seen so far in this thread. Raine1967 Jan 2015 #68

I bought my Bella online from a breeder. This one: cherokeeprogressive Jan 2015 #82

Did you notice something jberryhill Jan 2015 #88

nothing wrong with pure online order if you hire a Vet to do a pre-purchase exam. Sunlei Feb 2015 #114

its good that breeder does the hip/eye/elbow clearances. But that is all they do, except breed dogs. Sunlei Feb 2015 #107

i have shipped dogs in from Europe if I want one from a specific breeding or kennel Drahthaardogs Jan 2015 #92

Shelters don't breed dogs for profit Beaverhausen Jan 2015 #73

you're paying for housing, food and care until they are adopted. magical thyme Feb 2015 #102

Oh, yeah, right. They just were born at the shelter -- are you kidding? pnwmom Jan 2015 #59

If people didn't buy puppies from puppy mills, a lot of animal abuse would be gone. n/t benz380 Jan 2015 #2

Exactly...I'm glad the ad was pulled. whathehell Jan 2015 #11

I rescued my dogs, and paid nothing for them. onecaliberal Jan 2015 #3

Us too. We have 3 rescue dogs. n/t benz380 Jan 2015 #6

Me too...I don't "buy" animals, I adopt them from shelters. n/t whathehell Jan 2015 #7

We do too. I'd never pay for a pet, there are far too many great ones waiting for a forever home. onecaliberal Jan 2015 #75

Really? ProfessorGAC Jan 2015 #18

But they were most likely born at a puppy mill. The alternative pnwmom Jan 2015 #61

There are still pet owners who don't spay/neuter. MH1 Feb 2015 #113

It depends on the region. Some are much more successful than others, so their rescues pnwmom Feb 2015 #115

It's depressing... TeeYiYi Jan 2015 #4

He or she is going to a new family that will love it apples and oranges Jan 2015 #8

It's making fun of this huge cliche of a fucking beer ad LOL snooper2 Jan 2015 #10

Exactly. Have people entirely lost their sense of humor? pnwmom Feb 2015 #129

Agreed. GoDaddy IS a RW company, by the way. whathehell Jan 2015 #12

I didn't know that apples and oranges Jan 2015 #14

The owner is about as far right as you can get. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jan 2015 #31

Who are you with now? I have 24 domains with them apples and oranges Jan 2015 #40

Mine are handled through 'brainwrap.com' Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jan 2015 #44

Check out Namecheap.com. TM99 Jan 2015 #89

They were also for SOPA Egnever Jan 2015 #90

Yeah, I read it awhile ago, don't remember where, but I re-checked and got these.. whathehell Jan 2015 #56

SHOCKED! A-Schwarzenegger Feb 2015 #134

Our dogs are rescued billh58 Jan 2015 #5

Its a disgusting ad. Rhinodawg Jan 2015 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2015 #13

Some people don't get them from mills... MrScorpio Jan 2015 #15

I thought it was just a farm apples and oranges Jan 2015 #16

The ad is about setting up a puppy mill website A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2015 #22

Are all breeders puppy mills? apples and oranges Jan 2015 #29

I think most of them get their 'stock' from puppy mills. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jan 2015 #32

Where is your evidence for this? Most dog breeders I have known get their stock from other pnwmom Feb 2015 #128

Did you reply to the wrong comment? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #133

You responded to the question: "Are all breeders puppy mills?" pnwmom Feb 2015 #136

Hmm. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #137

Right, I misunderstood you. Thanks for clarifying. pnwmom Feb 2015 #138

I would never buy an animal from such a store. A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2015 #38

The dogs in mall pet stores come from puppy mills. smokey nj Jan 2015 #81

Not every breeder with a website is a puppy mill. pnwmom Feb 2015 #127

Responsible breeders don't sell puppies to unknown persons on the internet jberryhill Jan 2015 #30

Is that a widespread opinion in the animal lover community? apples and oranges Jan 2015 #37

YES. aquart Jan 2015 #49

Got it! apples and oranges Jan 2015 #53

Humane Society and ASPCA jberryhill Jan 2015 #57

Thank you for posting this. MH1 Feb 2015 #112

Thanks for that. A-Schwarzenegger Feb 2015 #135

Your faux is noted. GeorgeGist Jan 2015 #17

I used to refer to things I couldn't comprehend as "faux" also... LanternWaste Jan 2015 #20

I'm open to enlightenment. apples and oranges Jan 2015 #35

"no evidence of that in the clip" A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2015 #41

"A puppy mill is a large-scale commercial dog breeding operation apples and oranges Jan 2015 #50

Good for you for being open-minded and teachable. A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2015 #52

apples and oranges, you asked the right question in the beginning. pnwmom Jan 2015 #63

Every dog bred by a breeder, big or small, means a dog is euthanized by a shelter Beaverhausen Jan 2015 #74

That isn't true. In my area the spay and neuter campaigns mean we have very few unwanted dogs pnwmom Jan 2015 #79

2.7 million dogs euthanized each year Beaverhausen Jan 2015 #80

If she wants a dog from a breeder why shouldn't she get one? LisaL Jan 2015 #83

Did I say that? Beaverhausen Jan 2015 #87

Going to a breeder isn't the only option. But if you want a puppy of a certain breed or type, pnwmom Jan 2015 #85

yes, about 2 million euthanized each year and 'USDA approved puppymills' produce about the same. Sunlei Feb 2015 #108

I haven't seen the ad, but plenty of individual breeders who have a few dogs pnwmom Jan 2015 #62

And they sell to people they haven't met? jberryhill Jan 2015 #69

Not the ones I've dealt with. I met the breeder in their homes, pnwmom Jan 2015 #70

I got my cat online from somebody i never met. LisaL Jan 2015 #84

Wouldn't expect an answer from that poster. Snide remarks are more their style. (nt) Inkfreak Jan 2015 #95

LOL, ok. Educate us master! nt Logical Jan 2015 #76

It has gotten more attention than it previously would have. Ykcutnek Jan 2015 #21

+1000 nt Logical Jan 2015 #78

The ad was ironic and funny, I liked it but I also get how some do not ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #24

The homeless ones in the shelters came originally from mills and breeders. pnwmom Jan 2015 #64

It's a great ad. outside Jan 2015 #36

Good, the more people who see it and learn about puppy mills, regardless of whether this puppy sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #45

Seeing the uproar over Palin's child standing on the dog, Chemisse Feb 2015 #106

It gives me a very bad an creepy impression of Go Daddy. I'd avoid them at all costs. Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #65

It's a bit crass Renew Deal Jan 2015 #43

It was a nasty, disgusting, unspeakably tone deaf ad. aquart Jan 2015 #46

No one sold a dog to me, and yet somehow I have one. kcr Jan 2015 #47

Yeah, that was a really dumb statement in the OP. MH1 Feb 2015 #111

Yep, our dog was found on the highway in NC JanMichael Feb 2015 #117

That's OK -- as long as you talk about it and post it, they're happy. Brickbat Jan 2015 #51

It wouldn't be a Super Bowl if someone didn't complain about an ad. Inkfreak Jan 2015 #54

Don't forget the halftime show with Katy Perry. RiffRandell Jan 2015 #94

LOL! (nt) Inkfreak Jan 2015 #96

I liked her "Elmo" phase. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #97

My kitty was a rescue, the adoption fee was $30. She came with shots, spayed, tattooed to indicate Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #67

Ad no longer plays. mnhtnbb Jan 2015 #71

And got more publicly because of the animal rights groups throwing a fit. nt Logical Jan 2015 #77

Says you tabasco Jan 2015 #91

It is encouraging to see so many people speak against puppy mills Beringia Jan 2015 #93

"The dog falling out of the pick up truck was unfortunate." magical thyme Feb 2015 #100

video was removed as "commercially deceptive content" just like godaddys puppymill ad Sunlei Feb 2015 #103

I agree with you. Chemisse Feb 2015 #109

I agree. It was a parody, pure and simple, and no actual puppy was harmed pnwmom Feb 2015 #130

Never paid for a dog in my life. cwydro Feb 2015 #132