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Savannahmann

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18. The problem is that the pilots spend the time trying to fix the computer.
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 02:51 PM
Feb 2015

Look at this incident.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Transat_Flight_236

The pilots were warned of unequal fuel in the tanks. They consulted the manual, and it said to have the computer equal out the fuel. No big deal. They had no reason to suspect a fuel leak. In the old days, the pilot would have looked at the instruments and the first question would have been. "Why is there less fuel in the right wing than the left?"

A fuel leak would have been the suspected culprit in ten seconds, perhaps as much as twenty. But precious time was lost while the pilots tried to manage the computer, instead of managing the plane.

These were both experienced pilots, and has spent many thousands of hours watching the computer fly the plane. When something went wrong, they waited for the computer or the manual or someone else to tell them what it meant. By the time they figured out what was happening, it was nearly too late. Once they were aware of the problem, they did a hell of a job getting the plane down with everyone alive. But in the old days they would have shunted the fuel out of the tank much sooner, suspecting a problem like a fuel leak and flown on one engine while they worked to get down in an emergency situation. Landing on one engine is not easy, but it is a lot easier than landing with no engines.

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When you say older pilots... Most commercial planes were fly-by-wire for 40 years or more. TheBlackAdder Feb 2015 #1
Why did that pilot throw the breakers and turn off the computer over the Java Sea? CK_John Feb 2015 #3
Who knows? I wasn't there and I wasn't privy to his thoughts. TheBlackAdder Feb 2015 #4
Can you provide a link to this information please? Capt.Rocky300 Feb 2015 #7
Link: CK_John Feb 2015 #8
I've read several news articles on the crash......... Capt.Rocky300 Feb 2015 #9
No, not at all. Major Hogwash Feb 2015 #2
Some of the instrumentation is more reliable than humans jberryhill Feb 2015 #5
That's just your opinion. Major Hogwash Feb 2015 #11
That's just your opinion. GGJohn Feb 2015 #12
A nice myth but even the AF admits humans can't take the potential G force of todays fighters. CK_John Feb 2015 #6
Your argument is a myth, it is built on a false premise. Major Hogwash Feb 2015 #10
G suits have been around for decades now to counter G forces, GGJohn Feb 2015 #13
Testing of pilotless F16's and the introduction of driveless cars will bring this topic front and CK_John Feb 2015 #14
Any set of instruments or automation can fail FLPanhandle Feb 2015 #15
The problem is that the pilots spend the time trying to fix the computer. Savannahmann Feb 2015 #18
The problem is that the exchange of information is very poor. Savannahmann Feb 2015 #16
I know, I just answered, but.... Savannahmann Feb 2015 #17
A skilled and experienced pilot will know how the FBW computer works. backscatter712 Feb 2015 #19
IMO, the last several post high lights the human problem, which is more important CK_John Feb 2015 #20
I would disagree. Savannahmann Feb 2015 #21
I respect your opinion but... the world is moving to total automation and the bean counters are in CK_John Feb 2015 #22
The problem is this. Savannahmann Feb 2015 #23
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