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In reply to the discussion: Bill Maher Drops A Reality Bomb On Republicans: American middle-class was created though socialism [View all]Diclotican
(5,095 posts)former9thward
Socialism is more of a economical system - than a social system - even I know that
- And some form of safety nets can, and have existed over the last millenniums - even in roman time it existed at least until 280 AD - when the taxes and the debase of the monetary values more or less destroyed what social safety nets existed back then...
In the middle ages - and also all the way up to our own time - Churches have been instrumental in building safety nets who needy people can and was given help - specially the Catholic church had great emphasis on helping the needy - Frans Assisi - who originally was a wealthy man who had some sort of a personal crisis - turned 180 grades around - gave all his wealth away - and lived the rest of his natural life as a poor Monk, and even grounded what become of the order of Franciscans - a order where poverty is one of its most important tenets, Not that it was any hinder for the order to be rich and powerfully all over Europe back in the days - even today they own a lot of property all over Europe - at least Western part of Europe, but still they do great services to many who other vice might not have had excess to anything... That be some food - or a shelter - or medical need when it arrive..
Feudalism did had some ideas of safety nets - even if it was mostly up to the lords of the manor to deiced if they wanted to do it or not - in most cases it was the customers of the manor who deiced if the needy was given help or not - but it was often a deep rooted tradition going back to antiquity - that the nobles every fall, had a celebration for the good harvest - where everyone was invited and was eating and drinking for days at the time. And where the social customs between lord and peasants was less clearly than in the rest of the year - in most cases it was the church, in the middle ages the Catholic Church who did most of the services to needy people - sick, ill, old people not able to fend or them self - and children who had lost their parents - all of them could be given help from the church - or the local monastery - as long as needed... Many of the children who had lost their parents and ended up in a monastery - was staying there for the rest of their life - often ended up as monks them self - because they had been teach the ideals from a young age - and maybe also because, for the most part they had no other shoice....
Every civilized nations on the face of the earth have some form of a safety net, where you can get help and attention to your needs if needed - but in the US, it is still mostly fend for yourself - and if I have not mistaken it - it is not easy to get help from your form of Social net for the ones who end up sick or poor - or have never experienced anything else than being poor..
Dicloticna