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20. Cue crickets

Reply to Faryn Balyncd (Reply #18)

Sun Feb 1, 2015, 10:32 PM

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What would Teddy Roosevelt have thought of "investor-state dispute" tribunals? [View all] Faryn Balyncd Feb 2015 OP

I think he'd 2naSalit Feb 2015 #1

TR had a lot to say about big business. hifiguy Feb 2015 #2

To the Greatest Page. woo me with science Feb 2015 #3

The media has managed to make the idea of trust busting the same thing as marxism. pa28 Feb 2015 #4

And on the side supporting the likes of Warren & Roosevelt...that "Marxist" Adam Smith: Faryn Balyncd Feb 2015 #5

Yes. Unregulated capitalism cannot thrive. elleng Feb 2015 #7

Thank you. Bookmarking. pa28 Feb 2015 #47

Thank you FnB!! RiverLover Feb 2015 #54

I am seeing fairly new folks on DU lately, telling us condescendingly that we should love and djean111 Feb 2015 #6

investor state tribunals . .. PosterChild Feb 2015 #10

Aw yes, the "this is nothing new" argument. zeemike Feb 2015 #13

As opposed to the... PosterChild Feb 2015 #17

How do you know what it is if it is secret? zeemike Feb 2015 #19

The op references.... PosterChild Feb 2015 #21

The truth is that there been an explosion in invester-state disputes in recent years, and the breadt Faryn Balyncd Feb 2015 #23

Thanks for answering this. zeemike Feb 2015 #25

Thanks for the references . ... PosterChild Feb 2015 #45

"Imaginary horibbles." Yeah, we should trust you instead of this no-nothing guy, right? Scuba Feb 2015 #30

What in the hell happened to the Republican party? Curmudgeoness Feb 2015 #8

Actually, Roosevelt left the Republican Party. Faryn Balyncd Feb 2015 #9

He was a Republican when he was president. Curmudgeoness Feb 2015 #14

You are correct. Faryn Balyncd Feb 2015 #16

Here is a fact sheet... PosterChild Feb 2015 #11

In actual practice, the functioning of investor-state tribunals has been much worse: Faryn Balyncd Feb 2015 #12

I read the article.. PosterChild Feb 2015 #15

As the article discussed, it was Oxidental, not Ecuador, which broke the contract, Faryn Balyncd Feb 2015 #18

Cue crickets Oilwellian Feb 2015 #20

Chirp chirp chirp... PosterChild Feb 2015 #22

As a quick reply... PosterChild Feb 2015 #24

Rammed through with the Ecuadorian equivalent of "Fast Track" & "national security" secrecy perhaps? Faryn Balyncd Feb 2015 #26

I support the "fast track" process . .. PosterChild Feb 2015 #46

So you are advocating extending copyright & patent monopolies, and setting up investor-state... Faryn Balyncd Feb 2015 #48

What I said was.... PosterChild Feb 2015 #49

Corporate sovereignty, extended patent and copyright monpolies, decreased access to generic Faryn Balyncd Feb 2015 #52

No one will read it, or admit such law suits are limited. European Union has same deal, and Hoyt Feb 2015 #27

Not correct. ISDS cases have exploded in recent years. Faryn Balyncd Feb 2015 #28

European Union has the dispute settlements. These have been common for some time. Hoyt Feb 2015 #29

Perhaps that explains some of the anger about ISDS in Europe, Faryn Balyncd Feb 2015 #32

Fact is, they are not some new way to screw folks as posters seem to believe. Hoyt Feb 2015 #33

Continuing to attack a straw man does not address the exponentially increasing problems presented by Faryn Balyncd Feb 2015 #34

Lots of these countries need investment, but it won't come if investors are afraid their investment Hoyt Feb 2015 #35

More straw man arguments. But the lawsuits/awards have overwhelmingly NOT been about nationalizing Faryn Balyncd Feb 2015 #36

Like I said, Reich pushed NAFTA and still does. Now he's a guru. I guess that's a straw man too. Hoyt Feb 2015 #37

Opposing the TPP as "NAFTA on steroids" is a very strange way to "push NAFTA". Faryn Balyncd Feb 2015 #38

Reich still defends NAFTA. Recently he said he wished it had stronger Labor and Environmental Hoyt Feb 2015 #39

I guess those "stronger Labor & Environmental" standards are the reason corporate interests are so Faryn Balyncd Feb 2015 #40

You seem to ignore that government heads, like Obama, have a say in these agreements. Hoyt Feb 2015 #41

I worked many, many hours to elect our President. Faryn Balyncd Feb 2015 #42

Thanks for your perspective on this (nt) PosterChild Feb 2015 #51

+10 (nt) PosterChild Feb 2015 #50

kick woo me with science Feb 2015 #31

Kick. woo me with science Feb 2015 #43

He'd say Listen to the Warning seveneyes Feb 2015 #44

kick woo me with science Feb 2015 #53