Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
Editorials & Other Articles
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
General Discussion
In reply to the discussion: Editor of major German newspaper says he planted stories for CIA [View all]reorg
(3,317 posts)78. Alex Jones has a PhD in international politics?
And he wrote for the leading conservative newspaper in his country for 17 years?
There is no doubt that Dr. Ulfkotte is a right-winger (just like most of his former colleagues and superiors at that newspaper). It is true that he makes provocative statements, sometimes bolstered with spurious evidence.
I'm afraid the same or worse must be said about your own 'source', though. It doesn't take much effort to find claims there which are outright false. As regards Ulfkotte:
In 2003 the journalist and security expert Dr. Udo Ulfkotte published a book So lügen Journalisten ("This is How Journalists Lie"
where he accused the fourth estate of deliberately distorting the truth.
http://www.dialoginternational.com/dialog_international/2010/05/so-l%C3%BCgt-udo-ulfkotte.html
http://www.dialoginternational.com/dialog_international/2010/05/so-l%C3%BCgt-udo-ulfkotte.html
The writer and "Islam expert" Dr. Udo Ulfkotte has made a nice career for himself in Germany by spreading hate and fear against Muslims. ... What concerns me is that he is viewed by the German media as an "expert" and frequently appears on German television.
http://www.dialoginternational.com/dialog_international/2011/05/ulfkotte-turkish-womens-poor-hygiene-to-blame-for-ecoliehec-outbreak.html
http://www.dialoginternational.com/dialog_international/2011/05/ulfkotte-turkish-womens-poor-hygiene-to-blame-for-ecoliehec-outbreak.html
Ulfkotte was pretty much ignored by legitimate news outlets. Or he was derisively dismissed as a conspiracy nut. But two events happened last year that revitalized his career in fake journalism: the unfolding events in the Ukraine and the rise of the "Pegida movement".
http://www.dialoginternational.com/dialog_international/2015/01/fake-journalist-udo-ulfkotte-makes-a-comeback-as-putin-propagandist.html
http://www.dialoginternational.com/dialog_international/2015/01/fake-journalist-udo-ulfkotte-makes-a-comeback-as-putin-propagandist.html
According to this ominous blog, it was 'the Lügenpresse! battle-cry of the Pegida protesters' which gave 'Ulfkotte a convenient cover to go after the journalists who scorned or ignored him in the past'. 'Lügenpresse' means 'lying press' and is a fighting term with a long tradition reaching back almost 200 years. Since it has also been used by Goebbels (denouncing the foreign press), it is now seen as a given that everyone who uses it now must be a Nazi.
But was it in fact the 'Pegida' rabble who started denouncing the German press of unfairly reporting the events in Ukraine? 'Pegida' was founded in October 2014, after Ulfkotte's book came out. Harsh criticism of mainstream media reporting had been voiced much earlier, not only at 'Montagswachen' (Monday peace vigils) throughout the year but also by official supervisory organs:
The supervisory committee of Germanys ARD public television station has criticised the stations coverage of developments in Ukraine. The stations coverage had given the impression of bias and appeared to be directed against Russia and Russian standpoints, the committee declares in the minutes of its meeting of June 24, which has been published in the online magazine Telepolis. ...
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/09/26/ardp-s26.html
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/09/26/ardp-s26.html
The widely known and appreciated satirical TV progam 'Die Anstalt' had aired some skits on the same topic in September:
Some of the more interesting information mentioned by 'Die Anstalt' and also cited in Ulfkotte's book, about the pro-NATO networking among journalists, was cited from a book that came out in February 2014: Uwe Krüger: Meinungsmacht. Der Einfluss von Eliten auf Leitmedien und Alpha-Journalisten - eine kritische Netzwerkanalyse
That must be one big conspiracy indeed, I guess, no doubt directed by the lying press of Putin.
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
Recommendations
0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):
109 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
Nah--he's not Agency, although they've used him from time to time. He's straight ONI.
msanthrope
Feb 2015
#83
I think that is why Dennis Kucinich is stomped into the dust every time he gains a slight
GoneFishin
Feb 2015
#67
Makes one wonder, especially considering who Uncle Sam has done business with.
Octafish
Feb 2015
#28
The CIA is mucking about world wide picking winners and losers in the interest of crony capitalism.
Enthusiast
Feb 2015
#12
It wasn't being used as a homophobic slur when I used it. I don't play that.
Enthusiast
Feb 2015
#58
I was pretty sure you weren't using it to mean that, but a lot of people do.
Jamastiene
Feb 2015
#59
Marked this as one of those things that we suspected and are grateful that someone confirmed.
Baitball Blogger
Feb 2015
#27
It's interesting. I generally check DU first thing every morning for my news.
closeupready
Feb 2015
#31
I mostly trust DU because if a news item does not seem relevant or does not seem to fit or
JDPriestly
Feb 2015
#48
Russian media is probably no better than ours, but we don't follow Russian media, so it is
JDPriestly
Feb 2015
#50
We can only hope that journalists with terminal diseases will come forth as a deed to society.
YOHABLO
Feb 2015
#45
So because one TV station's public advocate wrote that some reporting might have been biased...
Major Nikon
Feb 2015
#102
He does. He claims that his book doesn't get media coverage despite being a bestseller.
DetlefK
Feb 2015
#61
I never said that. I said that he made up the claims about a plot to suppress coverage of his book.
DetlefK
Feb 2015
#63
Given the extent to which they have gone to propagandize and corrupt the media I think it
GoneFishin
Feb 2015
#69
Spent part of his career being a voice that helped to "drive nations toward war"
NCTraveler
Feb 2015
#74