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ellennelle

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47. PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE, SETTLE DOWN

Reply to Jackpine Radical (Original post)

Mon Feb 2, 2015, 03:21 PM

Feb 2015

i don't know quite what is going on, but first, PPP is hardly a slouch outfit. go here to see their latest poll:

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2014/PPP_Release_National_13015.pdf

this poll is almost entirely about the republican bench; you have to scroll all the way down to the bottom to find anything on the dems. and those results sure don't show problems for hillary; she has 60% likelihood of support, and warren has 49%.

second, i cannot figure out what is going on with the alternet post, as the numbers there don't match the numbers on the PPP poll itself. that's a fail, for sure, but i don't know what to make of it, and cannot figure it out.

given the writer is 'staff,' might well have been a novice flunky who was looking at an old poll or something.

whatev'. in any case, best to investigate before you conflagrate.

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New Poll Reveals Serious Liabilities for Hillary [View all] Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 OP

Indeed. CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2015 #1

Now what, indeed, my dear Peggy. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #3

I like Warren, QuestionAlways Feb 2015 #121

Interesting but elleng Feb 2015 #2

Actually, I think the "2014" date in the text is a typo & should be 2015. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #7

Thanks. That's a different story! elleng Feb 2015 #11

Not so sure fredamae Feb 2015 #66

I'm realizing a LOT that's funny about this poll. See my Post 71 for my current view. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #76

The public has always been populist. zeemike Feb 2015 #39

Interesting reading. Thanks for posting. Should give heart to the Sanders KingCharlemagne Feb 2015 #4

Unless, of course, there is the least bit of consistency ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #27

That's a good point about how a lot of people come to the interent to seek out KingCharlemagne Feb 2015 #29

Agreed, on both points ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #34

Awesome. ZombieHorde Feb 2015 #32

I'm so glad my post meets your approval! n/t 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #49

Not half as glad as I am. nt ZombieHorde Feb 2015 #122

Building a better mousetrap ;~/ Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #55

I agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #61

Where do we go from here? Autumn Feb 2015 #5

Change course 90 degrees to port Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #8

If you envision the ship of state moving in the wrong direction... brooklynite Feb 2015 #36

Make that 180 degrees Vincardog Feb 2015 #43

At this point, I'll settle for just turning away from where we're going. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #100

Paging Bernie! Paging Bernie Sanders! HappyMe Feb 2015 #6

Just don't do it at 3 am. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #9

lol! HappyMe Feb 2015 #10

YES! PAGING B E R N I E S A N D E R S ! TheNutcracker Feb 2015 #17

This is a push poll/test of attack themes, not a legitimate measure of public opinion geek tragedy Feb 2015 #12

My thoughts too... and in contrast to other electoral polls. n/t Adrahil Feb 2015 #13

"Given that it is possible that Hillary Clinton is a geek tragedy Feb 2015 #18

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #28

Have to wait for what 2016 looks like. (Werewolf reminded me how Julian Bond said BO was to appalachiablue Feb 2015 #35

What I thought also. I am fairly neutral on Hillary but she is the candidate to beat. yellowcanine Feb 2015 #15

Bullshit. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #20

PPP is a good firm. This is a meaningless poll. geek tragedy Feb 2015 #21

You're basing that judgment on a few selected items Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #22

It was the Draft Warren people who paid for it. geek tragedy Feb 2015 #23

I hadn't seen that Politico story. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #38

good onya. I know you're not the type to peddle bullshit nt geek tragedy Feb 2015 #44

Thanks. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #45

In your defense the Politico article is not very well written at best and biased at worse. rhett o rick Feb 2015 #115

It would certainly help to have some accurate information Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #117

The poll is most likely a piece of trash. That's not the main question. Politico, rhett o rick Feb 2015 #120

What is your expertise in polling? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #63

Polls should not make statements about candidates as part of the questioning. geek tragedy Feb 2015 #64

You seem to be whining? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #68

Here's the evidence it was from Warrenistas, which you will likely ignore geek tragedy Feb 2015 #70

Hmmm? Basically ALL polls are "suspect" Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #81

Well, no. Not every firm is like Rasmussen. geek tragedy Feb 2015 #82

NOT EVERY... broad brush stroke? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #88

These are the push poll questions the Republicans will ask, and they won't just ask them JDPriestly Feb 2015 #30

This is where Hillary stood on Raising-the-Cap in 2008: bvar22 Feb 2015 #96

Thanks. I remember that moment in the debates. We should raise the cap. JDPriestly Feb 2015 #98

I got that vibe too, but still, HRC appears to be very friendly toward the banks and Wall Street. nt ZombieHorde Feb 2015 #33

She's a wholly-owned subsidiary of Goldman. hifiguy Feb 2015 #91

How can you identify a "push-poll"? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #60

the OP quotes several such slanted questions. geek tragedy Feb 2015 #62

Looks like simple facts? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #65

That rhetoric belongs in a political campaign, NOT a poll trying to measure public opinion geek tragedy Feb 2015 #67

Is it rhetoric to ask pointed questions? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #69

LMAO. You can't even admit this crap poll was commissioned by the Hillary Haters geek tragedy Feb 2015 #74

Admit to what exactly? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #84

so you think the person who gave this survey to politico lied geek tragedy Feb 2015 #87

WE don't know who or why or how the survey... Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #89

There's a link to the poll at the Politico story geek tragedy Feb 2015 #92

The fact that someone told Politico that rich Sen Warren donors funded the poll is rhett o rick Feb 2015 #116

It does show how opinions change about a politicians when a voter is informed about the politician. Autumn Feb 2015 #105

And this covers just domestic issues. Her negatives on her foreign policy record are far worse. leveymg Feb 2015 #14

ROTFLMFAO DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #16

Post removed Post removed Feb 2015 #19

Nope, not concerned. This is like all those polls that say that folks prefer progressive policies. stevenleser Feb 2015 #24

Except when those policies get on the ballot jeff47 Feb 2015 #52

that's because of things like guns . it's "safer" to vote on a specific issue such as minimum wage JI7 Feb 2015 #77

I think it's more about appealing to the DC media jeff47 Feb 2015 #79

So regulating Wall Street, taxing the rich, and stopping TPP.... Mustellus Feb 2015 #25

This is a push poll Renew Deal Feb 2015 #26

Do you have a link to who commissioned the survey? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #73

Here,... DonViejo Feb 2015 #83

I don't see any named "donors"? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #85

Well, that's the best I can do for ya, but.... DonViejo Feb 2015 #93

The article is some of the worst reporting jobs I've seen. They substantiate nothing. rhett o rick Feb 2015 #118

Next: Romney's back in C Moon Feb 2015 #31

I would like to see the actual questions and also see if they were "loaded" (i.e., biased) George II Feb 2015 #37

Exactly. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #46

This article is stinking my atmosphere. I will vote asjr Feb 2015 #40

So, what parts of the article are inaccurate? [n/t] Maedhros Feb 2015 #41

It's impossible to say what parts are inaccurate since the writer has only paraphrased.... George II Feb 2015 #50

Poll or no poll, I will vote for the candidate that pushes reigning in Wall Street the most. Kablooie Feb 2015 #42

PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE, SETTLE DOWN ellennelle Feb 2015 #47

they are not a slouch outfit dsc Feb 2015 #103

She has the same problem as Obama LiberalLovinLug Feb 2015 #48

Considering Obama won BOTH of his Presidential elections by the two largest popular vote counts.... George II Feb 2015 #51

The "problem" is worse though with her LiberalLovinLug Feb 2015 #108

Hillary Clinton Koch Brothers photo-ops? Really? When? Where? George II Feb 2015 #114

Great job with the edit - thanks! George II Feb 2015 #53

Whatever we do, whatever decisions we make, Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #71

Polls and apparently Reports fredamae Feb 2015 #86

I favor progressives over wall street lackeys as much as the next guy but... fbc Feb 2015 #54

Push poll by anti-Hillary forces. Dawson Leery Feb 2015 #56

How can you identify a "push-poll"? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #58

this poll was commissioned by Warrenistas??? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #57

It certainly offers a lot of specifics for anyone to the left of her that decides to run. raindaddy Feb 2015 #59

What is a "traditional" Democrat? George II Feb 2015 #72

Take your pick wyldwolf Feb 2015 #95

A traditional Democrat simply put... raindaddy Feb 2015 #97

What makes that 'traditional?' wyldwolf Feb 2015 #101

I guess it's a matter of opinion but...... raindaddy Feb 2015 #107

roughly 38 years wyldwolf Feb 2015 #112

I think most people relate to modern history... raindaddy Feb 2015 #113

Actually this Poll Reveals Serious Liabilities for the idiots that commissioned it. nt William769 Feb 2015 #75

Her liabilities are the baggage she's accumulated and her failed attempts to deodorize it. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #78

thanks for the edit. but even 'warrenistas' have a right to do polling and they all have an angel. TheNutcracker Feb 2015 #80

Amen to every word. hifiguy Feb 2015 #90

Funny how some get their hopes up with push polls like this, part of which was done ONLINE wyldwolf Feb 2015 #94

I'm NOT A Hillary Fan, Can't Read This Right Now, Posting To Return... n/t ChiciB1 Feb 2015 #99

Exactly why Hillary is kaput if an FDR Democrat enters the race MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #102

Well, maybe Hillary can use this poll to her advantage in preparing for running. nt kelliekat44 Feb 2015 #104

Perhaps the poll should have indicated where the candidates poll on national security. Thinkingabout Feb 2015 #106

This poll is over a year old. Beacool Feb 2015 #109

That now appears to be the case. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #110

I'll bet the numbers favor Warren even more a year later, especially after taking on congress! TheNutcracker Feb 2015 #119

Poll or no poll, her liability is that her agenda is MALIGNANT. woo me with science Feb 2015 #111