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Cosmic Kitten

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81. Hmmm? Basically ALL polls are "suspect"

Mon Feb 2, 2015, 04:33 PM

Feb 2015

Ohhhhh..."A group of major liberal donors"
Any names?
I wouldn't trust any unnamed "group of donors"
Why do you?

As to the methodology...
can't we just agree that ALL of these
political polls are BIASED?
Or just the ones you disagree with?

Any and all polls can be and probably are BIASED.
Would you hire a polling company that didn't
find the results you desired?

The MANY ways a poll can be BIASED basically
means any and ALL polls must be looked at with suspicion.

Bias can be created through:
the time of day calls are made.
The zip codes of where calls are made.
The weighting of samples.
And on and on and on...

Polling companies are BUSINESSES.
They want to attract CUSTOMERS.
Customers shop where they get what they want.

You don't like the poll in question, we get it.
It makes Hillary look...
but lets just stop pretending some political polls
are unbiased, ok?
They are all BIASED and serve to manipulate public perception.

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New Poll Reveals Serious Liabilities for Hillary [View all] Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 OP

Indeed. CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2015 #1

Now what, indeed, my dear Peggy. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #3

I like Warren, QuestionAlways Feb 2015 #121

Interesting but elleng Feb 2015 #2

Actually, I think the "2014" date in the text is a typo & should be 2015. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #7

Thanks. That's a different story! elleng Feb 2015 #11

Not so sure fredamae Feb 2015 #66

I'm realizing a LOT that's funny about this poll. See my Post 71 for my current view. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #76

The public has always been populist. zeemike Feb 2015 #39

Interesting reading. Thanks for posting. Should give heart to the Sanders KingCharlemagne Feb 2015 #4

Unless, of course, there is the least bit of consistency ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #27

That's a good point about how a lot of people come to the interent to seek out KingCharlemagne Feb 2015 #29

Agreed, on both points ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #34

Awesome. ZombieHorde Feb 2015 #32

I'm so glad my post meets your approval! n/t 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #49

Not half as glad as I am. nt ZombieHorde Feb 2015 #122

Building a better mousetrap ;~/ Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #55

I agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #61

Where do we go from here? Autumn Feb 2015 #5

Change course 90 degrees to port Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #8

If you envision the ship of state moving in the wrong direction... brooklynite Feb 2015 #36

Make that 180 degrees Vincardog Feb 2015 #43

At this point, I'll settle for just turning away from where we're going. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #100

Paging Bernie! Paging Bernie Sanders! HappyMe Feb 2015 #6

Just don't do it at 3 am. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #9

lol! HappyMe Feb 2015 #10

YES! PAGING B E R N I E S A N D E R S ! TheNutcracker Feb 2015 #17

This is a push poll/test of attack themes, not a legitimate measure of public opinion geek tragedy Feb 2015 #12

My thoughts too... and in contrast to other electoral polls. n/t Adrahil Feb 2015 #13

"Given that it is possible that Hillary Clinton is a geek tragedy Feb 2015 #18

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #28

Have to wait for what 2016 looks like. (Werewolf reminded me how Julian Bond said BO was to appalachiablue Feb 2015 #35

What I thought also. I am fairly neutral on Hillary but she is the candidate to beat. yellowcanine Feb 2015 #15

Bullshit. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #20

PPP is a good firm. This is a meaningless poll. geek tragedy Feb 2015 #21

You're basing that judgment on a few selected items Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #22

It was the Draft Warren people who paid for it. geek tragedy Feb 2015 #23

I hadn't seen that Politico story. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #38

good onya. I know you're not the type to peddle bullshit nt geek tragedy Feb 2015 #44

Thanks. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #45

In your defense the Politico article is not very well written at best and biased at worse. rhett o rick Feb 2015 #115

It would certainly help to have some accurate information Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #117

The poll is most likely a piece of trash. That's not the main question. Politico, rhett o rick Feb 2015 #120

What is your expertise in polling? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #63

Polls should not make statements about candidates as part of the questioning. geek tragedy Feb 2015 #64

You seem to be whining? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #68

Here's the evidence it was from Warrenistas, which you will likely ignore geek tragedy Feb 2015 #70

Hmmm? Basically ALL polls are "suspect" Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #81

Well, no. Not every firm is like Rasmussen. geek tragedy Feb 2015 #82

NOT EVERY... broad brush stroke? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #88

These are the push poll questions the Republicans will ask, and they won't just ask them JDPriestly Feb 2015 #30

This is where Hillary stood on Raising-the-Cap in 2008: bvar22 Feb 2015 #96

Thanks. I remember that moment in the debates. We should raise the cap. JDPriestly Feb 2015 #98

I got that vibe too, but still, HRC appears to be very friendly toward the banks and Wall Street. nt ZombieHorde Feb 2015 #33

She's a wholly-owned subsidiary of Goldman. hifiguy Feb 2015 #91

How can you identify a "push-poll"? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #60

the OP quotes several such slanted questions. geek tragedy Feb 2015 #62

Looks like simple facts? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #65

That rhetoric belongs in a political campaign, NOT a poll trying to measure public opinion geek tragedy Feb 2015 #67

Is it rhetoric to ask pointed questions? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #69

LMAO. You can't even admit this crap poll was commissioned by the Hillary Haters geek tragedy Feb 2015 #74

Admit to what exactly? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #84

so you think the person who gave this survey to politico lied geek tragedy Feb 2015 #87

WE don't know who or why or how the survey... Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #89

There's a link to the poll at the Politico story geek tragedy Feb 2015 #92

The fact that someone told Politico that rich Sen Warren donors funded the poll is rhett o rick Feb 2015 #116

It does show how opinions change about a politicians when a voter is informed about the politician. Autumn Feb 2015 #105

And this covers just domestic issues. Her negatives on her foreign policy record are far worse. leveymg Feb 2015 #14

ROTFLMFAO DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #16

Post removed Post removed Feb 2015 #19

Nope, not concerned. This is like all those polls that say that folks prefer progressive policies. stevenleser Feb 2015 #24

Except when those policies get on the ballot jeff47 Feb 2015 #52

that's because of things like guns . it's "safer" to vote on a specific issue such as minimum wage JI7 Feb 2015 #77

I think it's more about appealing to the DC media jeff47 Feb 2015 #79

So regulating Wall Street, taxing the rich, and stopping TPP.... Mustellus Feb 2015 #25

This is a push poll Renew Deal Feb 2015 #26

Do you have a link to who commissioned the survey? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #73

Here,... DonViejo Feb 2015 #83

I don't see any named "donors"? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #85

Well, that's the best I can do for ya, but.... DonViejo Feb 2015 #93

The article is some of the worst reporting jobs I've seen. They substantiate nothing. rhett o rick Feb 2015 #118

Next: Romney's back in C Moon Feb 2015 #31

I would like to see the actual questions and also see if they were "loaded" (i.e., biased) George II Feb 2015 #37

Exactly. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #46

This article is stinking my atmosphere. I will vote asjr Feb 2015 #40

So, what parts of the article are inaccurate? [n/t] Maedhros Feb 2015 #41

It's impossible to say what parts are inaccurate since the writer has only paraphrased.... George II Feb 2015 #50

Poll or no poll, I will vote for the candidate that pushes reigning in Wall Street the most. Kablooie Feb 2015 #42

PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE, SETTLE DOWN ellennelle Feb 2015 #47

they are not a slouch outfit dsc Feb 2015 #103

She has the same problem as Obama LiberalLovinLug Feb 2015 #48

Considering Obama won BOTH of his Presidential elections by the two largest popular vote counts.... George II Feb 2015 #51

The "problem" is worse though with her LiberalLovinLug Feb 2015 #108

Hillary Clinton Koch Brothers photo-ops? Really? When? Where? George II Feb 2015 #114

Great job with the edit - thanks! George II Feb 2015 #53

Whatever we do, whatever decisions we make, Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #71

Polls and apparently Reports fredamae Feb 2015 #86

I favor progressives over wall street lackeys as much as the next guy but... fbc Feb 2015 #54

Push poll by anti-Hillary forces. Dawson Leery Feb 2015 #56

How can you identify a "push-poll"? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #58

this poll was commissioned by Warrenistas??? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #57

It certainly offers a lot of specifics for anyone to the left of her that decides to run. raindaddy Feb 2015 #59

What is a "traditional" Democrat? George II Feb 2015 #72

Take your pick wyldwolf Feb 2015 #95

A traditional Democrat simply put... raindaddy Feb 2015 #97

What makes that 'traditional?' wyldwolf Feb 2015 #101

I guess it's a matter of opinion but...... raindaddy Feb 2015 #107

roughly 38 years wyldwolf Feb 2015 #112

I think most people relate to modern history... raindaddy Feb 2015 #113

Actually this Poll Reveals Serious Liabilities for the idiots that commissioned it. nt William769 Feb 2015 #75

Her liabilities are the baggage she's accumulated and her failed attempts to deodorize it. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #78

thanks for the edit. but even 'warrenistas' have a right to do polling and they all have an angel. TheNutcracker Feb 2015 #80

Amen to every word. hifiguy Feb 2015 #90

Funny how some get their hopes up with push polls like this, part of which was done ONLINE wyldwolf Feb 2015 #94

I'm NOT A Hillary Fan, Can't Read This Right Now, Posting To Return... n/t ChiciB1 Feb 2015 #99

Exactly why Hillary is kaput if an FDR Democrat enters the race MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #102

Well, maybe Hillary can use this poll to her advantage in preparing for running. nt kelliekat44 Feb 2015 #104

Perhaps the poll should have indicated where the candidates poll on national security. Thinkingabout Feb 2015 #106

This poll is over a year old. Beacool Feb 2015 #109

That now appears to be the case. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #110

I'll bet the numbers favor Warren even more a year later, especially after taking on congress! TheNutcracker Feb 2015 #119

Poll or no poll, her liability is that her agenda is MALIGNANT. woo me with science Feb 2015 #111