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Major Nikon

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92. I didn't notice you said much of anything

Mon Feb 2, 2015, 06:11 PM

Feb 2015

You made some half-assed ad hominem about my "source" while completely ignoring the lunacy Ulfkotte wrote, complete with references. Then you claimed that because some German committee wrote that German media "appears" to be biased against Russia, that must somehow mean that RT is now the gold standard of journalism.

Now you're claiming that because Ulfkotte gets published by somewhat notable publishers, that must mean he's not full of shit. I suppose if I wanted to offer a rebuttal I could point out Hannity and Beck are published by Simon & Schuster and Palin is published by HarperCollins.

I could care less if you give a "flying f" whether the only "news" outlets that are publishing Ulfkotte are RT and nutbag conspiracy theory website Kopp Verlag along with it's UFO, 9/11 "truther", and anti-vax bullshittery, but I suspect reasonable people might find that somewhat relevant. YMMV.

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That would be the day. Enthusiast Feb 2015 #14

Danke schoen, Udo Ulfkotte. raging moderate Feb 2015 #21

Their own role? JackRiddler Feb 2015 #25

Wow...CIA Writes Stories Here Too billhicks76 Feb 2015 #42

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and remember.... grasswire Feb 2015 #36

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Thanks for that bit of history reminder! KoKo Feb 2015 #79

Woodward was (and is) Naval Intelligence. nt msanthrope Feb 2015 #81

The only thing that surprises me about this statement Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #82

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This goes all the way back to Watergate for me. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #86

Nixon pissed off the wrong people, that's for sure. nt msanthrope Feb 2015 #87

Nixon had knowledge of those involved in the Kennedy assassination. roamer65 Feb 2015 #91

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!! grasswire Feb 2015 #13

LOL! jalan48 Feb 2015 #15

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It does say it all, doesn't it. woo me with science Feb 2015 #18

Global capitalism with it's own secret police force-publically financed. jalan48 Feb 2015 #19

Makes one wonder, especially considering who Uncle Sam has done business with. Octafish Feb 2015 #28

Welcome to state-controlled media elias49 Feb 2015 #6

+100 ND-Dem Feb 2015 #9

Another whacko conspiracy theorist. merrily Feb 2015 #7

That's an example of what happens when you read the Huffington Post. Enthusiast Feb 2015 #24

This is huge...thank you for posting this judy Feb 2015 #8

As long as there are two like you, Judy, Democracy has a chance. Octafish Feb 2015 #107

Is there an English version of his book out? FLPanhandle Feb 2015 #10

The article states it is available in German only. Luminous Animal Feb 2015 #26

We should be outraged at the way major media allow themselves to be used for tblue37 Feb 2015 #11

Absolute Outrage Octafish Feb 2015 #99

The CIA is mucking about world wide picking winners and losers in the interest of crony capitalism. Enthusiast Feb 2015 #12

She didn't mean it Agent Mike! BrotherIvan Feb 2015 #22

But I did. Octafish Feb 2015 #32

Oh, your file is BIG BrotherIvan Feb 2015 #34

I agree with every word except the last one. Jamastiene Feb 2015 #56

It wasn't being used as a homophobic slur when I used it. I don't play that. Enthusiast Feb 2015 #58

I was pretty sure you weren't using it to mean that, but a lot of people do. Jamastiene Feb 2015 #59

and a big K & R! n/t wildbilln864 Feb 2015 #17

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And the obsolete mainstream media still wonders why it's ignored and ridiculed. pa28 Feb 2015 #20

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I have been re-reading histories of American Revolution. grasswire Feb 2015 #37

We've seen it time and again BrotherIvan Feb 2015 #40

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Kick Luminous Animal Feb 2015 #30

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K & R !!! WillyT Feb 2015 #33

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K&R! G_j Feb 2015 #43

Makes you wonder . . . gratuitous Feb 2015 #44

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Udo Ulfkotte is the Alex Jones of Germany Major Nikon Feb 2015 #46

The guy wasn't a senior editor at Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung? Octafish Feb 2015 #47

His story made sense? Major Nikon Feb 2015 #65

a vast conspiracy that nobody has heard of before? grasswire Feb 2015 #72

There are plenty of gullible people, sadly they all believe that CTs are not real. Rex Feb 2015 #75

50 years ago during the cold war, seriously? Major Nikon Feb 2015 #84

Alex Jones has a PhD in international politics? reorg Feb 2015 #78

...and now Ulfkotte writes for Kopp Online Major Nikon Feb 2015 #85

wow, I'm deeply impressed over your astute and factual rebuttal reorg Feb 2015 #88

I didn't notice you said much of anything Major Nikon Feb 2015 #92

of course you didn't reorg Feb 2015 #101

So because one TV station's public advocate wrote that some reporting might have been biased... Major Nikon Feb 2015 #102

please educate yourself about what ARD is and how it works reorg Feb 2015 #103

Please... Major Nikon Feb 2015 #104

I pointed out reorg Feb 2015 #105

Sounds like a conspiracy theory. Alkene Feb 2015 #49

Beautiful! I love Cowboy and Yankee movies. Octafish Feb 2015 #94

Of course he did! He ain't alone!!! DeSwiss Feb 2015 #52

Remember the Army Psyop troops that were "working" at CNN and NPR nationalize the fed Feb 2015 #53

Great memory, yours, nationalize the fed! Octafish Feb 2015 #100

, blkmusclmachine Feb 2015 #54

Of course, it is probably true. Jamastiene Feb 2015 #55

The book is not a "bestseller" and it was reported on in fall 2014. DetlefK Feb 2015 #57

Does not make it any less true or disturbing. djean111 Feb 2015 #60

He does. He claims that his book doesn't get media coverage despite being a bestseller. DetlefK Feb 2015 #61

You honestly do not think the CIA plants stories? djean111 Feb 2015 #62

I never said that. I said that he made up the claims about a plot to suppress coverage of his book. DetlefK Feb 2015 #63

Okay. I sort of think the CIA could care less about his book, because the CIA djean111 Feb 2015 #64

the book is currently ranked third on Der Spiegel's bestseller list reorg Feb 2015 #70

My apologies. DetlefK Feb 2015 #71

Since you have admitted you have provided false information reorg Feb 2015 #80

I am supposed to document that something wasn't documented??? DetlefK Feb 2015 #89

You cannot find a single review? reorg Feb 2015 #96

You know..... DeSwiss Feb 2015 #106

If I were a betting person father founding Feb 2015 #66

Given the extent to which they have gone to propagandize and corrupt the media I think it GoneFishin Feb 2015 #69

yes grasswire Feb 2015 #73

The "press" certainly did its part JEB Feb 2015 #68

Spent part of his career being a voice that helped to "drive nations toward war" NCTraveler Feb 2015 #74

Like the CIA cares. They got caught spying on Congress and do they give a shit? Rex Feb 2015 #76

It is nuts to think this has stopped. I had a relative in the Lint Head Feb 2015 #77

To quote Poppy Bu$h... roamer65 Feb 2015 #90

bushisms and cites johnnyreb Feb 2015 #109

An institution of sociopaths pauldp Feb 2015 #93

Capitalism's Invisible Army Octafish Feb 2015 #95

RIP Steven Kangas, author grasswire Feb 2015 #98

Well said. woo me with science Feb 2015 #97