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karynnj

(60,835 posts)
10. Not sure about that
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 08:22 AM
Apr 2012

It looks like the Edwards team is trying to make Young the fall guy suggesting that he mastermined the entire effort to get money from Mellon and Edwards was unaware of it. If anything Mellon spoke of suggests that she personally spoke to Edwards on having given that money, it pulls him into the loop.

It really seems to me that Edwards may have set things up to make Young the fall guy. Edwards' fingers did not touch the money - yet it went through Young's wife's account. Edwards' team is now using Young's claiming paternity as proof that he is untrustworthy and a liar - yet it is pretty obvious that it was done with Edwards' knowledge - at minimum. Young is a creep, but it seems that he was willing to do anything to help Edwards - and it is pretty clear who had the upper hand in that relationship. (An interesting point is that there may be no one in the world close to him who Edwards did not betray in some way, except possibly his parents - Elizabeth and her children, Rielle, Young, and any Democrat who trusted in him or had anything to do with him. Thinking this, rather than sympathizing that he is so alone - I think he is very fortunate that Cate is standing with him, likely at enormous emotional cost to herself.)

It might come down to whether the campaign law anticipated that people could use the claim that they were giving a gift to the candidate. Given that politicians in office would be legally required to report such a gift, there is some likelihood that they did. Otherwise there is no limit on contributions. (ie either Koch brother could give Jim DeMint billions of dollars for a 2016 run by giving him a personal gift because they like him - and they could say that it is for his personal use. He could, of course, contribute an unlimited amount to his own campaign. Money laundering made easy! )

Like you, I don't believe a word that either man says unless there is independent proof.

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And this trial is a Republican wet dream lame54 Apr 2012 #1
Not really RZM Apr 2012 #26
I would agree deutsey Apr 2012 #2
Two words edhopper Apr 2012 #4
Crime? Millions of dollars flow from foreign funders through US companies to buy politicians. leveymg Apr 2012 #3
However, the idea that anyone could give a politician (directly or indirectly) karynnj Apr 2012 #9
One has to wonder how isolated Edwards' "blackmail potential" really is. leveymg Apr 2012 #16
Maybe he's not a criminal but I'll wait until after the trial before I declare him innocent. n/t Little Star Apr 2012 #5
There's a difference, of course, between "not guilty" and "innocent." Bake Apr 2012 #14
Your right. Sorry I used the wrong wording... Little Star Apr 2012 #17
The man is entitled to the presumption of innocence. kestrel91316 Apr 2012 #18
I should have said.... Little Star Apr 2012 #21
Hey, we are all entitled to our opinions because in truth only the justice system must remain kestrel91316 Apr 2012 #29
me too, on assuming the RW is always guilty, lol! Little Star Apr 2012 #31
Justice system impartial? marions ghost Apr 2012 #36
Personally I think he is a creepy criminal madokie Apr 2012 #6
I agree. HappyMe Apr 2012 #12
but the system marions ghost Apr 2012 #37
So right you are madokie Apr 2012 #40
The case for the jury will be which pathological liar do you believe. MoonRiver Apr 2012 #7
Not sure about that karynnj Apr 2012 #10
The first thing ProSense Apr 2012 #15
John Ensign was charged with a crime and tried?? News to me. kestrel91316 Apr 2012 #19
Very well stated karynnj Apr 2012 #20
+1 Little Star Apr 2012 #22
I agree loyalsister Apr 2012 #32
now that Young has testified under oath magical thyme Apr 2012 #43
she isn't going to testify dsc Apr 2012 #44
Agreed. And it leaves me wondering... magical thyme Apr 2012 #8
It's not TPTB, it is something much more plebian karynnj Apr 2012 #13
I didn't mean democrats by TPTB magical thyme Apr 2012 #28
I was refering to the TPTB karynnj Apr 2012 #38
you wrote that he was "a party favorite" magical thyme Apr 2012 #42
I think an Edwards presidency would have been great for R's loyalsister Apr 2012 #33
I'll wait to hear from more witnesses and maybe to see more documentary evidence. GodlessBiker Apr 2012 #11
He's at least a creep, maybe also a criminal. undeterred Apr 2012 #23
Why can't he be both? Capt. Obvious Apr 2012 #24
He sure can be. I just posted this because I think it's cali Apr 2012 #27
Luckily for him, he'll get a jury to decide his fate Egalitariat Apr 2012 #25
"John Edwards is a creep, not a criminal" Spazito Apr 2012 #30
None of us are experts in the campaign finance laws. Nye Bevan Apr 2012 #34
It's a NC tradition to play melm00se Apr 2012 #35
note the party affiliation of each dsc Apr 2012 #45
not really melm00se Apr 2012 #47
during his tenure we had dsc Apr 2012 #48
There were no Super Pacs back in the day. n/t cr8tvlde Apr 2012 #39
"Guilt and innocence turn on one question eridani Apr 2012 #41
Ds get big news stories BEFORE trial, with hints they'll walk. Festivito Apr 2012 #46
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