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karynnj

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13. It's not TPTB, it is something much more plebian
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 08:41 AM
Apr 2012

It might be that having a person who had personal reasons to dislike him in a position with jurisdiction has led to a borderline legal case. That isn't TPTB, it is a person - in about the position Edwards was in in 1998. While the trial is unprecedented, it is possible that the circumstances are unprecedented too. The closest counterpart is the Ensign case, but that is not closed and years behind this one as to time line. In addition, there it looks likes his dad tried to buy him out of trouble.

There have been past cases of accusations of parents contributing more to an election than allowed by giving their child money before an election. These have always been a far grayer area than contributions from people with no real personal connection - other than they are supporters.

I don't think the main motivation was hate - and certainly not fear, I think it was seen as a political opportunity. I would imagine that he intends to claim in his Senate campaign that he fought corruption at the highest level - and this case and the one against Easley are the capstones of that.

I also think this meme that TPTB "hated" him is ridiculous. They were the ones who favored him in the first place. He was a media and party favorite from 1998 and was quickly designated a serious candidate in both 2004 and 2008. It was TPTB that pressed Kerry to put him on the ticket - a gift Edwards trashed by being uncooperative.

I suspect the reason for his downfall being quicker and more severe than anyone else's is that the height he reached was all based on trusting him - as he never stood on his record. Getting people to trust him was possibly the biggest talent he had - and it was a huge asset when he was a lawyer and when he was a politician. Charisma and steady, wide open blues eyes won't work now that the trust that they previously engendered was betrayed. I suspect that the reason he is so alone is that there are few close to him he did not betray at a very very deep level.

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And this trial is a Republican wet dream lame54 Apr 2012 #1
Not really RZM Apr 2012 #26
I would agree deutsey Apr 2012 #2
Two words edhopper Apr 2012 #4
Crime? Millions of dollars flow from foreign funders through US companies to buy politicians. leveymg Apr 2012 #3
However, the idea that anyone could give a politician (directly or indirectly) karynnj Apr 2012 #9
One has to wonder how isolated Edwards' "blackmail potential" really is. leveymg Apr 2012 #16
Maybe he's not a criminal but I'll wait until after the trial before I declare him innocent. n/t Little Star Apr 2012 #5
There's a difference, of course, between "not guilty" and "innocent." Bake Apr 2012 #14
Your right. Sorry I used the wrong wording... Little Star Apr 2012 #17
The man is entitled to the presumption of innocence. kestrel91316 Apr 2012 #18
I should have said.... Little Star Apr 2012 #21
Hey, we are all entitled to our opinions because in truth only the justice system must remain kestrel91316 Apr 2012 #29
me too, on assuming the RW is always guilty, lol! Little Star Apr 2012 #31
Justice system impartial? marions ghost Apr 2012 #36
Personally I think he is a creepy criminal madokie Apr 2012 #6
I agree. HappyMe Apr 2012 #12
but the system marions ghost Apr 2012 #37
So right you are madokie Apr 2012 #40
The case for the jury will be which pathological liar do you believe. MoonRiver Apr 2012 #7
Not sure about that karynnj Apr 2012 #10
The first thing ProSense Apr 2012 #15
John Ensign was charged with a crime and tried?? News to me. kestrel91316 Apr 2012 #19
Very well stated karynnj Apr 2012 #20
+1 Little Star Apr 2012 #22
I agree loyalsister Apr 2012 #32
now that Young has testified under oath magical thyme Apr 2012 #43
she isn't going to testify dsc Apr 2012 #44
Agreed. And it leaves me wondering... magical thyme Apr 2012 #8
It's not TPTB, it is something much more plebian karynnj Apr 2012 #13
I didn't mean democrats by TPTB magical thyme Apr 2012 #28
I was refering to the TPTB karynnj Apr 2012 #38
you wrote that he was "a party favorite" magical thyme Apr 2012 #42
I think an Edwards presidency would have been great for R's loyalsister Apr 2012 #33
I'll wait to hear from more witnesses and maybe to see more documentary evidence. GodlessBiker Apr 2012 #11
He's at least a creep, maybe also a criminal. undeterred Apr 2012 #23
Why can't he be both? Capt. Obvious Apr 2012 #24
He sure can be. I just posted this because I think it's cali Apr 2012 #27
Luckily for him, he'll get a jury to decide his fate Egalitariat Apr 2012 #25
"John Edwards is a creep, not a criminal" Spazito Apr 2012 #30
None of us are experts in the campaign finance laws. Nye Bevan Apr 2012 #34
It's a NC tradition to play melm00se Apr 2012 #35
note the party affiliation of each dsc Apr 2012 #45
not really melm00se Apr 2012 #47
during his tenure we had dsc Apr 2012 #48
There were no Super Pacs back in the day. n/t cr8tvlde Apr 2012 #39
"Guilt and innocence turn on one question eridani Apr 2012 #41
Ds get big news stories BEFORE trial, with hints they'll walk. Festivito Apr 2012 #46
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