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lumberjack_jeff

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17. Discussion is killing people!

Tue Feb 3, 2015, 03:52 PM

Feb 2015

On Tue Feb 3, 2015, 02:38 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

That, aluminium, and the timing of vaxing of infants.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6174675

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Inappropriate - link to anti-vax woo woo site.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Tue Feb 3, 2015, 02:50 PM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I have mixed feelings on this posst. Since there is autism in my husband's family, I am aware that it is mostly a genetic problem. Other causes of autism have been suggested, but are thin on evidence. I think it best to get the misconceptions out in the open and allow the DU members the chance to debunk unsupported claims. BTW, jsut calling it "woo" isn't debunking anything. Explain why it is "woo," and give details.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Anti vaxxers should be banned from DU.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
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Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Yes, it is. And it's OTT, or otherwise inappropriate. We need to stop these anti-vax people on DU and the woo they are spreading. It's killing people!

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Autistic woman's heart-wrenching Facebook post wins the "anti-vaxxing" argument [View all] KamaAina Feb 2015 OP

I'm curious. Anti-vaxxers have the statistic that says cases of autism louis-t Feb 2015 #1

Good one! KamaAina Feb 2015 #2

data, shmata central scrutinizer Feb 2015 #4

They will tell you no one has done the research... Act_of_Reparation Feb 2015 #6

They tell me that the CDC is in on the conspiracy. eom Blanks Feb 2015 #81

Oh, louis-t... Maedhros Feb 2015 #11

Moreover, why isn't the autism rate among adults born in the 50s and 60s higher? Drunken Irishman Feb 2015 #24

And what about before the vaccines were available? Were there autistic people then? Has anyone jwirr Feb 2015 #37

Stop. Just stop now. Lucky Luciano Feb 2015 #41

THAT'S the Elephant in the room that anti-vaxxers don't want to incorporate into their thinking. BlueJazz Feb 2015 #42

Moreover, if mercury is the cause... LeftishBrit Feb 2015 #45

I was born in '64. KamaAina Feb 2015 #54

Because they give many more shots to kids now than they did in the fifties and during a closer classykaren Feb 2015 #68

That's the thing about stats. AngryDem001 Feb 2015 #26

If you are talking about imthevicar Feb 2015 #66

knr Douglas Carpenter Feb 2015 #3

shouldn't the issue be about mercury in the vaxx? wordpix Feb 2015 #5

See the pic of the day on the home page Curmudgeoness Feb 2015 #7

Sorry, responded to wrong post. self-delete AllyCat Feb 2015 #30

That, aluminium, and the timing of vaxing of infants. Mika Feb 2015 #8

Two words. Dr Hobbitstein Feb 2015 #9

Post removed Post removed Feb 2015 #12

If you can't win an argument with facts, Dr Hobbitstein Feb 2015 #15

The Arizona Center for Advanced Medicine does not perform original research. Maedhros Feb 2015 #14

They practice homeopathy there... Dr Hobbitstein Feb 2015 #18

Do you eat bread? Look at the ingredients. It contains an aluminum adjuvant too. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #16

Discussion is killing people! lumberjack_jeff Feb 2015 #17

Juror #3 is missing the point here... Dr Hobbitstein Feb 2015 #22

I was number 4 and I stand by my statement. zappaman Feb 2015 #28

+1 Dr Hobbitstein Feb 2015 #35

Good vote kcr Feb 2015 #44

Thank you. Chellee Feb 2015 #50

Exactly right. nt SunSeeker Feb 2015 #51

+1. NT NutmegYankee Feb 2015 #64

Yep. n/t SomeGuyInEagan Feb 2015 #65

I'm not sure I agree... Blanks Feb 2015 #83

"The flu vaccine continues to be preserved with mercury" AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #19

A staggeringly dumb article... SidDithers Feb 2015 #29

This was left to stand by 4-3 vote. Lots of unimformed folks here. HERVEPA Feb 2015 #32

Creative speculstion is thataway ---> bettyellen Feb 2015 #59

Thimerasol was removed from vaccines due to public demand. Dr Hobbitstein Feb 2015 #10

^^^This AllyCat Feb 2015 #31

Also, Wakefield was not concerned with mercury LeftishBrit Feb 2015 #43

No, it isn't. It's only present in the multi-dose vials now as a preservative. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #13

If there had been a link, we'd have seen a decline in diagnosed autism Warpy Feb 2015 #36

Flu vaccines - including vaccines approved for use by children as young as 6 months Ms. Toad Feb 2015 #79

I have Aspergers. Vaccinate your kids!!! Spiggitzfan Feb 2015 #20

Welcome to DU, fellow spectrumite! KamaAina Feb 2015 #21

Hi! Spiggitzfan Feb 2015 #23

Welcome to DU! Dr Hobbitstein Feb 2015 #25

Yeah, Aspie have a spectrum too. Spiggitzfan Feb 2015 #40

Well said fellow aspie! janlyn Feb 2015 #27

Thank you. Spiggitzfan Feb 2015 #38

Correct, and diverting money to investigating Wakefield's claims has diverted it away Warpy Feb 2015 #33

Well said and welcome! AllyCat Feb 2015 #34

Thank you. Spiggitzfan Feb 2015 #39

Welcome! Aristus Feb 2015 #49

Thank you for your insights and wisdom. greatlaurel Feb 2015 #61

k&r LeftishBrit Feb 2015 #46

K and R with tears in my eyes DonCoquixote Feb 2015 #47

the anti-science and anti-intellectual culture of this simpleton redneck nation is headache inducing TimeToEvolve Feb 2015 #48

Never ceases to amaze me, either. K&R +100 Jefferson23 Feb 2015 #52

Do DU members really want to ban anti-vaccine members from DU? mackerel Feb 2015 #53

It's not a "difference in opinion" EvolveOrConvolve Feb 2015 #55

Anti-vaxxers have no place on DU. NuclearDem Feb 2015 #56

I would absolutely like to see anti-vaxx quackery banned. Marr Feb 2015 #57

I do. zappaman Feb 2015 #58

Exactly what part of the anti-vax argument warrants a platform like DU? cleanhippie Feb 2015 #60

There's a difference between discussing different opinions... cab67 Feb 2015 #67

But shouldn't the line be drawn between differing opinions and outright stupidity? alp227 Feb 2015 #80

Really? There is a lot of stupid on here regardless of McCarthy or Wakefield links. mackerel Feb 2015 #84

These vaccination discussions should go to Creative Speculation imho steve2470 Feb 2015 #85

What Sarah Palin is to politics, Unknown Beatle Feb 2015 #62

See..? 2naSalit Feb 2015 #63

I think it's worth noting chervilant Feb 2015 #69

No, they'll declare it a healthy medical proceedure jeff47 Feb 2015 #70

Post removed Post removed Feb 2015 #71

I am a parent of an autistic son. mmonk Feb 2015 #75

You must be very impressed indeed to have posted that rant three times. KamaAina Feb 2015 #76

They are all #71, computer or internet or program glitched while they were posting it once. uppityperson Feb 2015 #82

"Toxin purges"? NuclearDem Feb 2015 #77

Another point to ponder: Autism is being diagnosed earlier and earlier. KamaAina Feb 2015 #74

The vaccines is protection for our children, this should be a no-brainer. I am a great fan of Thinkingabout Feb 2015 #78