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hifiguy

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3. Nowhere in this universe.

Tue Feb 3, 2015, 05:41 PM

Feb 2015

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?"

- Epicurus

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where was your god when a guy is burning alive in a cage? [View all] Liberal_in_LA Feb 2015 OP

In the minds of men. love_me_some_pickles Feb 2015 #1

either there is no god or god is an asshole JI7 Feb 2015 #2

That's always been my conclusion, so I'm an atheist. nt Nay Feb 2015 #10

Or people did it. rug Feb 2015 #21

why didn't god use powers to stop it ? JI7 Feb 2015 #22

Why did people do it? rug Feb 2015 #24

yes. And that means there is no god JI7 Feb 2015 #26

Theology is a strange reaction to killing by fire. rug Feb 2015 #27

yeah. team sports is probably more of god"s thing JI7 Feb 2015 #31

So, this murder by ISIS leads you to denouncing a god that does not exist, and now football? rug Feb 2015 #32

i didn't believe in god even before isis JI7 Feb 2015 #38

How can you prove there is no god? There may be no god like man has construed him or her. kelliekat44 Feb 2015 #95

because God gave people free-will n/t btrflykng9 Feb 2015 #28

By that logic we shouldn't stop murder because that would undermine free will. Vattel Feb 2015 #41

we aren't God btrflykng9 Feb 2015 #43

I don't get your point. Vattel Feb 2015 #44

Since the concept of 'god' is inherently irrational, getting a rational answer from a believer cleanhippie Feb 2015 #45

Which is why large portions of this thread read like a Monty Python skit tkmorris Feb 2015 #51

"I could easily stop some asshole..." cherokeeprogressive Feb 2015 #46

I don't get your point. Vattel Feb 2015 #47

Because He chooses not to? cherokeeprogressive Feb 2015 #49

Yeah, thats the problem, such a god would be evil. n/t Humanist_Activist Feb 2015 #55

Then that makes him a first-class asshole. cleanhippie Feb 2015 #87

That again, would not seem to constitute free will. btrflykng9 Feb 2015 #80

Anyone worshiping a god who would allow such atrocities phil89 Feb 2015 #52

Reacting to a war crime by calling religious believers disturbed is more than disturbing. rug Feb 2015 #61

Be careful, comments like that are sure to attract them. cleanhippie Feb 2015 #89

He was busy crafting his image in slices of toast and rust stains under viaducts. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2015 #74

Or just busy making and playing in the larger scheme of things seveneyes Feb 2015 #39

Nowhere in this universe. hifiguy Feb 2015 #3

I love this marym625 Feb 2015 #5

You want God to zot out all evil instantly? Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #9

Not all evil. i can understand not doing anything JI7 Feb 2015 #25

Only works for the sinless notadmblnd Feb 2015 #40

Those are some sick mother fuckers marym625 Feb 2015 #4

Historically the gods seem to like this sort of spectacle. Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #6

Out playing golf with the rest of the CEO's LiberalArkie Feb 2015 #7

Making crickets. GeorgeGist Feb 2015 #8

Finally, someone making a strong case for atheism. Dreamer Tatum Feb 2015 #11

or a case for god being an asshole JI7 Feb 2015 #13

How can something that does not exist be an asshole? rug Feb 2015 #62

You think it makes sense to worship a god phil89 Feb 2015 #53

Letting people exercise their Free Will. MicaelS Feb 2015 #12

Shhhh....the weak need simple answers to difficult questions. nt Dreamer Tatum Feb 2015 #15

Oh Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #73

why not intervene in cases where free will leads to such JI7 Feb 2015 #18

He already did a long time ago. That's why we have forgiveness and grace. btrflykng9 Feb 2015 #33

biggest crock of shit I ever heard! IMHOOC! n/t wildbilln864 Feb 2015 #42

Tell that to all the dead babies in the world tkmorris Feb 2015 #58

How did you go from this killing to dead babies? rug Feb 2015 #64

Thank you very much for that answer. Major Hogwash Feb 2015 #90

Oh, I'm not trying to convert any one btrflykng9 Feb 2015 #92

+1 btrflykng9 Feb 2015 #29

It's his favourite form of entertainment - just look at the Inquisition... GliderGuider Feb 2015 #14

Come on, Lib, "everything happens for a reason" and "God has a plan for everyone" WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2015 #16

On the internet declaiming. rug Feb 2015 #17

deciding the outcome of Super Bowl XLIX. Terra Alta Feb 2015 #19

God? He (It?) was reading the latest issue of Charlie Hebdo. Yorktown Feb 2015 #20

At an XTC concert. Ykcutnek Feb 2015 #23

??? LWolf Feb 2015 #30

God is a kid with an ant farm, he's not planning anything. miyazaki Feb 2015 #34

God didn't do it. Evil people did it. bluestateguy Feb 2015 #35

Where is your evidence phil89 Feb 2015 #54

Are you claiming this murder was not the result of a free act? rug Feb 2015 #65

I'd rather argue against than for. zipplewrath Feb 2015 #68

Yes, it is easier. But if you win that argment, you'll then have to answer this question. rug Feb 2015 #70

Is it a free act if God tells you to do so? brooklynite Feb 2015 #75

No. rug Feb 2015 #76

"And kill them wherever you find them" brooklynite Feb 2015 #78

And? rug Feb 2015 #82

Upthread, the claim is that "God didn't do it" brooklynite Feb 2015 #85

10 bucks says you don't get a coherent answer to that. cleanhippie Feb 2015 #91

If God created everything then he created evil. NYC Liberal Feb 2015 #83

No. Major Hogwash Feb 2015 #88

That premise doesn't follow. rug Feb 2015 #94

Planning the next tsunami: cpwm17 Feb 2015 #36

God receives no blame for evil committed by others from the religious types. notadmblnd Feb 2015 #37

Wow. This is either satire or shockingly simpleton-esque. flvegan Feb 2015 #48

Outrage is the chief form of DU currency, and each member has their personal outrage issue. kwassa Feb 2015 #57

Okay, stop it. flvegan Feb 2015 #59

I will blame the anti-vaxxers. kwassa Feb 2015 #72

What if you blamed them both? flvegan Feb 2015 #77

If I can't blame more than the pro and anti vaxxers, then my effort is truly weak. kwassa Feb 2015 #81

I don't think anyone that believes in fairy tales is wearing their big girl/boy pants tkmorris Feb 2015 #60

Depends on the "fairy tales" and who is invoking that label, considering. flvegan Feb 2015 #66

But I don't wanna put on my big boy pants. goldent Feb 2015 #67

Indeed. n/t flvegan Feb 2015 #69

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2015 #50

Ever read the bible? madville Feb 2015 #56

Probably face palming because humans Jamastiene Feb 2015 #63

The one that always stuck in my mind was this one: freshwest Feb 2015 #93

Reading your 34,000 posts and laughing at you. nt Dreamer Tatum Feb 2015 #71

You know who I like even less than god botherers? Ghoulish assholes who use tragedies LeftyMom Feb 2015 #79

I bet he was watching The Big Bang Theory. Dr. Strange Feb 2015 #84

I think the religious might argue that Ed Suspicious Feb 2015 #86

Another day, another anti-religion thread that isn't even posted in the right forum. n/t BlueStater Feb 2015 #96

Locking: Via the GD SOP: Raine1967 Feb 2015 #97