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103. And there is that old talking point, for Liberals btw. I think it was Rush who supplied that one.

Thu Feb 5, 2015, 01:35 AM

Feb 2015

Did you know that his ditto heads got all their talking points to 'attack' Liberals, every Monday morning from Limbaugh?

'Martyrs', I remember it well. Once they got one of those anti-Liberal talking points, they were sure they were the smartest ditto heads on the planet, and repeated and repeated them, over and over again. And we played with them. DU was great back then, they mocked their old talking points, and with so much humor. Trust me, Liberals made mince meat out of them. And loved every minute of it.

You should be careful, though, using their talking points, most DUers remember them well. Not to mention, they turned out to be WRONG about everything.

Just some friendly advice, take it or leave it.

'Martyr' Lol, that brought back some great memories.

Thanks for the laugh!

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Question: when was it settled science that vaccinations don't cause autism? [View all] MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 OP

I think 1998 GP6971 Feb 2015 #1

the study was officially retracted 4-5 years ago. should be easy to find since it was bettyellen Feb 2015 #2

Whoever responds, please include a link! fried eggs Feb 2015 #3

Here's a link to a National Geographic Article xmas74 Feb 2015 #6

National Geographic has changed for the worse. Read all about it here. proverbialwisdom Mar 2015 #143

But still gives the basic answers xmas74 Mar 2015 #146

I found the answer regarding MMR fried eggs Feb 2015 #7

Given the rarity of febrile seizures, the sample size is very small bhikkhu Feb 2015 #17

There is also apparently a... Whiskeytide Feb 2015 #72

Odd thing mercuryblues Feb 2015 #109

Never heard that it was 'settled science'. A lot of people seem to be very concerned about sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #4

Of course you hadn't. NuclearDem Feb 2015 #11

Your post reminded me of the black humor around so-called 'neutron bombs.' (These are KingCharlemagne Feb 2015 #12

I love that idea. And I wouldn't be surprised if it is possible. But killing people for now, seems sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #15

The repugs have an increasingly great concern for human life, pennylane100 Feb 2015 #19

I know what you mean. It's heartwarming, isn't it? GoneFishin Feb 2015 #30

When the "N-Bomb" was the big fear, I advocated we needed an "O & P-Bomb". . . Journeyman Feb 2015 #16

Well then, read this thread Sabrina-tons of great info debunking this nonsense... bettyellen Feb 2015 #36

That's very admirable, DU has always been there to inform the uninformed. sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #37

Glad we could be of service regarding this anti- vaxxing bullshit, and I'll just stay on topic- bettyellen Feb 2015 #38

Thank you for the info! zappaman Feb 2015 #39

Thanks, I might do that. Human life, the preservation of it, is something I care about, you'll have sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #41

I'm so sorry to hear DU has failed to educate you- and here in a thread with a so many great links! bettyellen Feb 2015 #44

Like I said, you just don't get it. I may start a thread, as I said. I have had plenty of 'luck' sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #45

Sorry to hear how disgusted you are by so many DUers for trying to discuss vaccinations- bettyellen Feb 2015 #47

I like pancakes and zappaman Feb 2015 #48

Urgle gurlgle why don't people care what I care about- when I care about it?!?!? bettyellen Feb 2015 #49

I'm sorry people don't care about what you care about. I'm sure that must be very sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #68

Trolls gonna troll. NuclearDem Feb 2015 #81

If you need any help with that, let me know! sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #50

Nope. zappaman Feb 2015 #56

Its amazing how they try to derail and misdirect every comment and thread Ramses Feb 2015 #58

Some would rather try picking fights with DUers bettyellen Feb 2015 #118

yes, watching a toddler throw a tantrum is the definition of your response Ramses Feb 2015 #119

Welcome to DU...again! zappaman Feb 2015 #127

some people are just low fact, high opinion posters Sheepshank Feb 2015 #75

That's for sure. The fact is, that right here in this thread, there are advocates of 'eliminating' sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #93

No kidding! gopiscrap Feb 2015 #55

It's also not a settle science to some people that the world is round.... Sheepshank Feb 2015 #69

I agree, I don't listen to the fringe either, and there is nothing more 'fringe' imho, than sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #73

yeah you are always good to come back with "They're trying to shut me up" martyr thing. Sheepshank Feb 2015 #74

It's as if they are consistently having a conversation zappaman Feb 2015 #77

^ ^ ^ oh yeah!! ^ ^ ^ Sheepshank Feb 2015 #84

You mean 'she' don't you? Why not just be honest when you are talking about other people? sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #92

poor poor pitiful me... Sheepshank Feb 2015 #94

And there is that old talking point, for Liberals btw. I think it was Rush who supplied that one. sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #103

so now I'm a ditto head for calling you out on your usual MO? That's the real joke here n/t Sheepshank Feb 2015 #112

"Your usual MO". And yours is Personal attacks. People who engage in personal attacks do so sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #113

bwahh haa haa...walking it back? you are wasting my time. Sheepshank Feb 2015 #116

Martyr is not a word limited to right wingers treestar Feb 2015 #136

Apparently once Rushbo uses a word treestar Feb 2015 #135

ain't that just the truth ;) n/t Sheepshank Feb 2015 #142

There is the very definition of irony. sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #85

OFFS NuclearDem Feb 2015 #89

I don't care you respond...but be intellectually honest and respond to the subject at hand Sheepshank Feb 2015 #95

The question was prompted by your attack on ME rather than on the proponent of disappearing sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #97

nope..still not being honest. This is your usual go to tactic, and not just on this thread. n/t Sheepshank Feb 2015 #111

Well said. n/t FSogol Feb 2015 #114

there is scientific consensus that vaccines have never been shown to cause autism. La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2015 #71

Anti-vaxxers do tend to selectively ignore that information. NuclearDem Feb 2015 #82

Well you just showed your lack of concern for treestar Feb 2015 #134

The CDC published its findings in 2007. NuclearDem Feb 2015 #5

Excellent! xmas74 Feb 2015 #10

That's a great link too! NuclearDem Feb 2015 #13

My link is the simple go-to link xmas74 Feb 2015 #14

While I don't have a link, I read recently that scientists now believe that KingCharlemagne Feb 2015 #8

As a geneticist, I think chromosomal microduplications and deletions play a large role. Barack_America Feb 2015 #20

There's this (from 1995!) Spider Jerusalem Feb 2015 #21

There is no exact date. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2015 #9

Mid 2000's, as far as I've read bhikkhu Feb 2015 #18

when was it settled DonCoquixote Feb 2015 #22

Kick. 'Cause Manny never came back to acknowledge all the good answers he got...nt SidDithers Feb 2015 #23

I'm sure he'll be back with another OP faulting a certain politician of the Democratic geek tragedy Feb 2015 #24

You said it! treestar Feb 2015 #138

Because we know it's coming, that train is never late geek tragedy Feb 2015 #25

Bingo! nt msanthrope Feb 2015 #34

Maybe Manny has a job? MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #33

More likely, the answers do not validate his narrative... LanternWaste Feb 2015 #83

Personal attack. nt MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #86

So was your question answered? zappaman Feb 2015 #87

Obviously. MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #88

Glad you got your answers! zappaman Feb 2015 #90

Why would ask people to prove a negative? CreekDog Feb 2015 #133

you could have used the google treestar Feb 2015 #137

Another kick, because this is a great thread. I have heard that people have learned a lot sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #43

One thing we learn is who can actually *discuss* things here at a "discussion site," and who snarks villager Feb 2015 #52

You're exactly right. sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #53

Always? A Lot? ProfessorGAC Feb 2015 #67

Good links gwheezie Feb 2015 #26

The vaccines are made to go bad because of contrails. randome Feb 2015 #27

where did you go we need you back! snooper2 Feb 2015 #28

There was never a link edhopper Feb 2015 #29

Kick...nt SidDithers Feb 2015 #31

When there was no proof EVER that they do. Avalux Feb 2015 #32

Strictly speaking, never. Vattel Feb 2015 #35

How does one explain the Autistic kids onecaliberal Feb 2015 #54

No one has proven that there is only one cause of autism. Vattel Feb 2015 #59

Autism is genetic. onecaliberal Feb 2015 #62

Dude, seriously. Vattel Feb 2015 #64

Umm... "tobacco has been around almost as long as people" jberryhill Feb 2015 #79

So, did you get the info you were looking for? zappaman Feb 2015 #40

I find myself oddly curious as to how Elizabeth Warren feels about vaccines, LOL. bettyellen Feb 2015 #46

hehe treestar Feb 2015 #140

Every single child of my age cwydro Feb 2015 #42

1998 onecaliberal Feb 2015 #51

When was it settled that brownies don't make my shoes in the middle of the night MattBaggins Feb 2015 #57

Same thing, isn't it? BUT YOU CAN'T PROVE THAT! Incredible thread full of absolute...brownies. randome Feb 2015 #65

2002 Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #60

There was never any real evidence Kurska Feb 2015 #61

A simple Google search. Lex Feb 2015 #63

Probably one of the best ops started on this subject. NCTraveler Feb 2015 #66

it was never established that they do. La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2015 #70

Always. Since the faked study couldn't reproduce results, it was never valid on point Feb 2015 #76

Did you get your answer? zappaman Feb 2015 #78

of course, it has never been settled and can never be "settled..." mike_c Feb 2015 #80

By "settled", I mean "pretty unlikely that we'll find a link" nt MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #91

now you're talking like a scientist.... mike_c Feb 2015 #96

But you, frankly, are the only poster I've read who acknowledges the truth of science: that there is WinkyDink Feb 2015 #132

At 60-ish, I've spent half my life doing science.... mike_c Feb 2015 #141

LOL...Manny and his woo got served. Cali_Democrat Feb 2015 #98

Clearly, you have zero idea of what's going on here MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #99

You're pretty easy to figure out, Manny Cali_Democrat Feb 2015 #100

Amd where have I said otherwise? MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #101

LOL....this thread might be your best yet.... Cali_Democrat Feb 2015 #102

Third Woo Manny. nt geek tragedy Feb 2015 #105

LOL! Cali_Democrat Feb 2015 #115

Lolz geek tragedy Feb 2015 #104

Care to weigh in on reply #106 in this thread? Cali_Democrat Feb 2015 #121

There is a bizarre desire by some people to believe MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #122

Manny in 2008: Cali_Democrat Feb 2015 #124

Your point?nt MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #125

No, you see, THIS TIME he was sincere... SidDithers Feb 2015 #110

You were trolling, unless you got amnesia since 2008. geek tragedy Feb 2015 #106

Wow. "Spectrum autism" isn't "true autism"... SidDithers Feb 2015 #107

But a very clear and cogent discussion of how vaccines do not cause autism with detailed geek tragedy Feb 2015 #108

there is no such thing as "Spectrum Autism" - Autism is a Spectrum - that why its official name Douglas Carpenter Feb 2015 #117

The "science" here, as in most of psychology, is terrible. MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #123

there may very well be different types and obviously severity levels of Autism Douglas Carpenter Feb 2015 #126

Should an irritated throat and lung cancer both be pulled into a single diagnosis MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #130

no an irritated throat and lung cancer are obviously not two different types of cancer affected Douglas Carpenter Feb 2015 #131

"You were trolling" JI7 Feb 2015 #120

0 recs joshcryer Feb 2015 #129

I'll be really glad if and when this vaccine BS gets shoved to Creative Speculation or TOS banned steve2470 Feb 2015 #139

In summary, both the official US government stance and the consensus of this thread appears to be... proverbialwisdom Mar 2015 #144

The official government stance relies on multiple analyses of additional research papers, of course. proverbialwisdom Mar 2015 #145

OTOH, much of the DATA is protected & unavailable despite years of FOIA requests. Just read this... proverbialwisdom Mar 2015 #147

Upcoming event. proverbialwisdom Mar 2015 #148