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rhett o rick

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217. This OP is a huge fail. Mr. Greenwald wrote an article pointing out the hypocracy
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 01:49 PM
Feb 2015

of our "exceptional" government. You made a valiant attempt to turn it into an aniti-Obama issue apparently to rally the pro-Obama friends. They love the distraction from actual issues like the TPP and fracking.

Mr. Greenwald DID NOT MENTION THE PRESIDENT and he did not minimize the atrocities of ISIS.

I find it distressing that some here professing to be liberals, attack the messengers (ad hominem), whether they are journalists, protesters, or whistle-blowers, because they don't want to hear anything bad about their authoritative heroes.

If the Republicans were committing these atrocities we'd be hearing a different tune from the anti-Greenwald group.

Only conservatives swim in the river of denial.

Of course he did leftynyc Feb 2015 #1
No surprise there. zappaman Feb 2015 #2
Preemptive outrage, that's a new one. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #3
Here is a link to the article in question el_bryanto Feb 2015 #4
Thank you. The OP is wrong - this is no screed against Obama. It's a clinical analysis leveymg Feb 2015 #6
Indeed. n/t markpkessinger Feb 2015 #14
The swooners see anything critical of "USA! #1!!1!" as an "anti-Obama screed." PSPS Feb 2015 #26
Put a Republican in office and they'd be doing the opposite. alarimer Feb 2015 #50
Yes. Cult of personality. Was Bush's, now Obama's. You have to summarily dismiss them as irrational. PSPS Feb 2015 #59
I think anyone leftynyc Feb 2015 #192
Not all of them. Some are clearly right-wingers wearing sheep's clothing. Scuba Feb 2015 #195
whenever I think they cannot get more pathetic, they find a way Skittles Feb 2015 #92
+1 F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #40
"Very misleading OP." Big surprise there. Usually Greenwalds detractors are so fair. Vattel Feb 2015 #43
+1 grntuscarora Feb 2015 #62
Lying is what liars do. 99Forever Feb 2015 #63
critical thinking skills make a difference Skittles Feb 2015 #86
Thank you for posting the link n/t deutsey Feb 2015 #84
Thank you for the link. SamKnause Feb 2015 #111
I don't know what he said, but G_j Feb 2015 #5
Why wouldn't he? That's been his MO all along. eom MohRokTah Feb 2015 #7
Glenn Greenwald wanted to throw Bush and Cheney in jail. Octafish Feb 2015 #8
Sunstein is a legal scholar, Greenwald is a writer OKNancy Feb 2015 #13
Sunstein is a lawyer. MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #17
Glenn Greenwald vs. Cass Sunstein -- Battle Royal, in their own words! Octafish Feb 2015 #24
Sunstein shows great integrity MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #29
that's the truth G_j Feb 2015 #34
In La La Land, job titles only discredit you. Ykcutnek Feb 2015 #18
Sunstein is a legal hack and token "liberal" at Univ of Chicago Law. leveymg Feb 2015 #20
We need more like Sunstein working for the federal government. Ykcutnek Feb 2015 #27
Sunstein really seems too vacuous and low wattage to be truly despicable. leveymg Feb 2015 #32
that's an awfully low bar you've set there frylock Feb 2015 #38
Ditto to Greenwald fans. nt Ykcutnek Feb 2015 #41
4 hidden posts Long Drive Feb 2015 #45
Want to explain to the site admins why you can view a hidden transparency page? Ykcutnek Feb 2015 #46
Want to get a clue? Long Drive Feb 2015 #48
Not the transparency page. Ykcutnek Feb 2015 #49
You are mistaken. zappaman Feb 2015 #52
I can see clearly that you have 4 hidden posts Long Drive Feb 2015 #53
I hope to one day have enough DU knowledge as a zombie. nt Ykcutnek Feb 2015 #56
Ah Honey Long Drive Feb 2015 #60
LOL Hissyspit Feb 2015 #157
The hidden post tangent wasn't working? Long Drive Feb 2015 #69
It's magic I tells ya ...magic L0oniX Feb 2015 #207
LOL!!! Capt. Obvious Feb 2015 #216
just got the fifth Ichingcarpenter Feb 2015 #225
I'm sure he's already back in the saddle. QC Feb 2015 #226
can you kindly point me to an example of the bar that "Greenwald fans" have set.. frylock Feb 2015 #68
Holy Shit that made me laugh! Long Drive Feb 2015 #74
It also was Greenwald who called out Bush and Cheney on illegal NSA spying back in 2007. Octafish Feb 2015 #22
A year after others had already broken the story. Yeah, amazing journalist job that. stevenleser Feb 2015 #51
Except for that pesky fact that he was writing about in 2005 on his blog, "Unclaimed Territory" Luminous Animal Feb 2015 #128
Ah so the entire world thinks another journalist broke the story but it was Greenwald all along? stevenleser Feb 2015 #151
Greenwald has never claimed that he broke the story. Nor has anyone else. You are woefully inept at this. Luminous Animal Feb 2015 #161
You just did in your previous comment to me. Nt stevenleser Feb 2015 #162
Really. "Journalist" Leser. Quote me where I claim he broke the story. Use your best "journalistic" Luminous Animal Feb 2015 #163
Here's the link. Do we really have to play these silly games? stevenleser Feb 2015 #166
So extraordinarily dishonest. Nothing there about me or him claiming to break any sort of story. Luminous Animal Feb 2015 #172
Greenwald has no cred except among anti-us nationalists stevenleser Feb 2015 #174
No."Journalist" Leser. I plainly said that he was reporting on the NSA story 2 years Luminous Animal Feb 2015 #178
You just proved me right. The NY times broke the story in mid Dec 2015, nearly 2006 stevenleser Feb 2015 #180
Not once said he beat them to it. Quit lying. Merely said he was reporting on it. Where are your Luminous Animal Feb 2015 #186
Own up to what you wrote. Nt stevenleser Feb 2015 #181
For someone who wishes to be taken seriously as a journalist, you're highly subjective... MrMickeysMom Feb 2015 #230
wtf does that matter? bigtree Feb 2015 #132
So let me get this straight, you demand he get credit for breaking an already broken story? stevenleser Feb 2015 #150
Send me the links where you were reporting on NSA abuses in 2005 "journalist" Leser. Luminous Animal Feb 2015 #167
I'm tired from already linking to something you said then denied. stevenleser Feb 2015 #169
Quote me. You can't. Quote me in your subject line. "Journist" Leser. There will be crickets. Luminous Animal Feb 2015 #173
See my #174. Own up to what you wrote. Nt stevenleser Feb 2015 #176
Nope. Not any where ever have I made the claim he broke the story. Pure fabrication "journalist" Luminous Animal Feb 2015 #179
Own up to what you wrote. Nt stevenleser Feb 2015 #182
Quote what I wrote in your subject line. "Journalist" Leser. Quote where I said he broke the story? Luminous Animal Feb 2015 #183
I've quoted you several times now. Own up to it or retract it. stevenleser Feb 2015 #184
Your credibility is a shit clogged toilet. Quote me in subject line where I said he broke the story. Luminous Animal Feb 2015 #187
1/30/06- Digby:"Glenn Greenwald has been the go-to guy in this [illegal NSA wiretaps/hearing Qs]" deurbano Feb 2015 #188
where did he ask for that kind of accolade? bigtree Feb 2015 #190
"I find it odd to see DUers hating on the guy now." Give them credit for being flexible. rhett o rick Feb 2015 #54
The War bits. The Bankster bits. Octafish Feb 2015 #124
Money wins elections so we're ok with oligarchy big money now. L0oniX Feb 2015 #206
Sorry Octafish, I think Greenwald is a tool. hunter Feb 2015 #78
Well that is certainly insightful analysis. Maedhros Feb 2015 #114
Reality often surprises me. hunter Feb 2015 #123
But he wrote in his book that he supported Bush frazzled Feb 2015 #235
Our current Sec of State believed Bush & the Invasion of Iraq. bvar22 Feb 2015 #242
I called him out on it, too (in person) frazzled Feb 2015 #243
What a BS OP. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2015 #9
Do you believe the U.S. is better or worse than ISIS? Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #232
What a smug prick. Ykcutnek Feb 2015 #10
Anger issues? Long Drive Feb 2015 #47
maybe just homophobia nt grasswire Feb 2015 #75
Oh I dunno. Puglover Feb 2015 #91
As in NJ? It seems more Pretzeley to me. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2015 #97
Are they still snowed in up there in Jersey? QC Feb 2015 #98
This message was self-deleted by its author QC Feb 2015 #98
you poor thing Skittles Feb 2015 #88
I don't know davidpdx Feb 2015 #234
Bit of a one trick pony, isn't he...nt SidDithers Feb 2015 #11
You ought to read the article before you comment. elias49 Feb 2015 #23
An entire article journey begins with the first sentence… MrMickeysMom Feb 2015 #229
No. elias49 Feb 2015 #12
Is your complaint that the US drone program shouldn't draw complaints? MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #15
--- G_j Feb 2015 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author G_j Feb 2015 #61
He's a terror apologist. nt msanthrope Feb 2015 #16
this is apologizing for terror? bigtree Feb 2015 #36
Two lines followed by an entire screed of false moral equivalence? msanthrope Feb 2015 #102
false moral equivalence? that's one opinion bigtree Feb 2015 #127
An opinion everyone except anti-US nationalists agree with. stevenleser Feb 2015 #159
Right. NanceGreggs Feb 2015 #171
I don't think you or anyone else holds the morality card on when it's appropriate to speak out bigtree Feb 2015 #189
It has nothing to do with morality. It has to do with nationalistic thinking. As Orwell pointed out. stevenleser Feb 2015 #220
no. It's about your cheap, petty labeling bigtree Feb 2015 #222
"My own Government, I can not be Silent.” G_j Feb 2015 #219
on point, G_j bigtree Feb 2015 #223
the King speech few want to acknowledge, G_j Feb 2015 #224
Yes, we just make movies about men who kill children F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #152
"our troops" eh? I take it you are a Chris Kyle fan then? redgreenandblue Feb 2015 #191
Yes..when i likened msanthrope Feb 2015 #228
Some of his acolytes here can do the same thing. A thread about a president picking up a hitchhiker Number23 Feb 2015 #19
"blue links of madness" Bobbie Jo Feb 2015 #121
Oh, giftedgirl hit the jackpot when she came up with. What made it so perfect was that it is so Number23 Feb 2015 #122
If it's a screed against anything, it's against U.S. militarism in general . . . markpkessinger Feb 2015 #21
OP fail. nt elias49 Feb 2015 #25
OP on point! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #28
How so? Please try to explain. elias49 Feb 2015 #37
Nevermind is right..... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #39
Nothing says vacuuousness like cheerleading an unspecified/unlinked claim. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #104
BRAVO Long Drive Feb 2015 #136
Big time deutsey Feb 2015 #85
Did I fail to make my point? Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #221
Greenwald wants to spark a discussion about collateral killings from U.S. operated drones bigtree Feb 2015 #30
bugsplat -- ugh that's so revolting of them. nt grasswire Feb 2015 #79
Excellent post. F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #147
Just trying to point out his hypocrisy and anti-U.S. myopia... Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #233
what do you know about how he feels about the U.S. bigtree Feb 2015 #236
Cesca makes my point a bit more eloquently here: Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #240
I actually agree our politicians use these tragedies and atrocities for their own political purpose bigtree Feb 2015 #241
Was the article untrue? Or just unflattering? arcane1 Feb 2015 #31
It wasn't even about Obama. It dealt with blast effects on human tissue. Not flattering, leveymg Feb 2015 #33
Opportunistic but not untrue. AtomicKitten Feb 2015 #35
Expect the TigerBeat crowd to be suitably outraged in 3.....2.....1 Tarheel_Dem Feb 2015 #42
DURec for Greenwald, unrec for the OP... bvar22 Feb 2015 #44
Reading the recs Long Drive Feb 2015 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author MrMickeysMom Feb 2015 #139
... SidDithers Feb 2015 #158
So you agree with Greenwald that the U.S. is no better than ISIS? Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #231
Anti-US screed anyway. Greenwald fanboys are zeroing in on the Obama in your OP stevenleser Feb 2015 #55
I get the impression that you would like to eliminate all anti-USA "screed". Maybe Fox Noise is rhett o rick Feb 2015 #67
Nice try at changing the subject, but no. The answer to wrongdoing by others is not "US Bad" stevenleser Feb 2015 #71
The linked article reveals a side of the USofA that some wish to pretend rhett o rick Feb 2015 #103
The linked article is the latest attempt by Greenwald and fans to minimize ISIS and stevenleser Feb 2015 #156
a text book example of intellectual dishonesty? G_j Feb 2015 #168
Could it be CT?Greenwald and fans conspiring to minimize ISIS atrocities by revealing US atrocities. rhett o rick Feb 2015 #197
unfortunately, the two are directly linked. G_j Feb 2015 #76
care to dicuss the actual substance of the actual article? G_j Feb 2015 #64
Discuss with substance? Not a chance. nm rhett o rick Feb 2015 #100
*Fuck you*, Glenn Greenwald. nt AverageJoe90 Feb 2015 #65
I can see why you wouldn't link to it since it isn't anything like your OP riderinthestorm Feb 2015 #66
+1 Marr Feb 2015 #73
The truth is hell. And they can't handle it. This fangirl is laughing her ass off Autumn Feb 2015 #77
Right on cue. Puglover Feb 2015 #87
It's all so predictable. Autumn Feb 2015 #93
It's honestly not funny. Puglover Feb 2015 #94
I can only see it as performance art. It has to be. Autumn Feb 2015 #95
I sit in my comfortable living room Puglover Feb 2015 #96
It's like somebody put up the bat signal. QC Feb 2015 #101
Yeah, just like that. Jeff Rosenzweig Feb 2015 #112
Aw it looks like a few of my besties Puglover Feb 2015 #133
LOL! yowzayowzayowza Feb 2015 #145
Most of the people who post there ... NanceGreggs Feb 2015 #149
This thread shows the real divide nationalize the fed Feb 2015 #70
Question Authority grasswire Feb 2015 #80
All is for the best, believe in what we're told. Maedhros Feb 2015 #116
It's truly gross that the only thing you saw in that article was Obama's name. Marr Feb 2015 #72
Go figure, the more he comes out with his crap the clearer the picture becomes. Thinkingabout Feb 2015 #81
I have no idea what you're trying to say. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2015 #82
If you "understand" Greenwald then I dont know if you are following the truth. Thinkingabout Feb 2015 #110
What crap, historical fact? whatchamacallit Feb 2015 #89
He does not report historical facts, impossible to get the facts from him Thinkingabout Feb 2015 #109
So you reviewed the media entries in the article whatchamacallit Feb 2015 #115
After someone tells different tales on the same subject I mark them off on Thinkingabout Feb 2015 #117
Brilliant! whatchamacallit Feb 2015 #118
Well, alrighty then! Oilwellian Feb 2015 #90
I do not believe anything he has to say, zero confidence in his reporting. Thinkingabout Feb 2015 #107
What a piece of shit whatchamacallit Feb 2015 #83
^^^THIS^^^ add: very stinky too. L0oniX Feb 2015 #129
I was going to ask if you were ashamed of your misinformation/propaganda but I see you are by TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #105
Unbelievably dishonest - you don't link to the article you're criticizing, you just expect scarletwoman Feb 2015 #106
The article is a painful reminder of the thousands of innocents killed by Obama's drones Bonobo Feb 2015 #108
The Truth is Ugly. SamKnause Feb 2015 #113
Well, this is a rather disingenuous OP, empty of validity... MrMickeysMom Feb 2015 #119
no can do guillaumeb Feb 2015 #209
US black ops - 130+ countries last year Man from Pickens Feb 2015 #120
I admit it - I see a trend. grasswire Feb 2015 #125
I sense a couple of other possible trends. merrily Feb 2015 #130
Post BS and run? SaveOurDemocracy Feb 2015 #126
Post removed Post removed Feb 2015 #131
enjoy every crumb. KG Feb 2015 #134
Of course, Glenn, how's that PUTEEN doing (yes I know it's SNOWjob in Russia)?!1 n/t UTUSN Feb 2015 #135
Moral equivalence? guillaumeb Feb 2015 #137
well said G_j Feb 2015 #142
"our" govt?? moondust Feb 2015 #138
There are 6 million Americans who live abroad. progressoid Feb 2015 #199
Which government is Greenwald referring to? Major Hogwash Feb 2015 #140
This message was self-deleted by its author Hissyspit Feb 2015 #160
nice of you to chide him for leaving the U.S. (he is still an American) bigtree Feb 2015 #237
Does he pay taxes? Major Hogwash Feb 2015 #238
irrelevant bigtree Feb 2015 #239
Where was Greenwald when Bush was in Office nakocal Feb 2015 #141
He wrote three books about the George W. Bush Administration G_j Feb 2015 #143
Yeah, but except for those three books QC Feb 2015 #144
Was that before or after Greenwald endorsed the Iraq War? Major Hogwash Feb 2015 #146
No they don't. They just see through misleading bull crap when it's posted. Hissyspit Feb 2015 #154
Let see how good your memory is if Hillary is the nominee whatchamacallit Feb 2015 #164
All will be forgiven then, of course. QC Feb 2015 #196
easy decisions guillaumeb Feb 2015 #208
When did he "endorse" the Iraq War. cpwm17 Feb 2015 #201
Wow. You may want to delete this post. Hissyspit Feb 2015 #153
No, they shouldn't delete. It took a long time for Greenwald to realize Bush was stevenleser Feb 2015 #185
Hunh? Hissyspit Feb 2015 #227
... xocet Feb 2015 #148
"Anybody finally want to start admitting I've been right about him and his "brand" of agenda-based" Hissyspit Feb 2015 #155
He's got a point Warpy Feb 2015 #165
Almost. He might have one if the Obama administration had dropped white phosphorous stevenleser Feb 2015 #170
I didn't see it as anti Obama, specifically Warpy Feb 2015 #175
Nor did I, as I noted in my #55 above. stevenleser Feb 2015 #177
K&R! stonecutter357 Feb 2015 #193
"Did something once"? In case you haven't noticed, we're still doing it. Scuba Feb 2015 #194
Huh? progressoid Feb 2015 #198
To be fair, it did mention Obamas name in the article. Autumn Feb 2015 #200
That's because Ellen has Bo. progressoid Feb 2015 #203
Obviously the secret service detail has failed again. Autumn Feb 2015 #204
He may not be on cue, but yes, he is indeed right. Orsino Feb 2015 #202
No, he's not right. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2015 #212
His tweet could be called a broad brush... Orsino Feb 2015 #213
Or it can be called a tu quoque. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2015 #214
Greenwald impugned motives, not factual errors. Orsino Feb 2015 #218
Why is no one allowed to feel indignation over ISIS Arkana Feb 2015 #205
That is an excellent question!! Peacetrain Feb 2015 #210
The blatant racism is dripping through that tweet Capt. Obvious Feb 2015 #211
Then point it out. nm rhett o rick Feb 2015 #215
This OP is a huge fail. Mr. Greenwald wrote an article pointing out the hypocracy rhett o rick Feb 2015 #217
He didn't minimize, he equivocated Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #244
So.....do you agree with the OP or not? I am not sure of your point. rhett o rick Feb 2015 #245
Right, GG.. we shouldn't feel anything about ISIS because of what you think. Got It, ********. Cha Feb 2015 #246
K&R Cha Feb 2015 #247
K Cha Feb 2015 #248
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