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eissa

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32. Actually, we are, thanks for bringing it up

Thu Feb 5, 2015, 05:34 PM

Feb 2015

We now have a 4,000-strong militia in the region that are bravely confronting these assholes. Given the merciless barbarity ISIS has displayed, the amount of courage it takes to join such a force is pretty high.

Both Newsweek and the WSJ have featured their story:
http://www.newsweek.com/4000-strong-christian-militia-formed-fight-isis-northern-iraq-304371#.VNJ5WZC_jOY.twitter
http://www.wsj.com/articles/iraqs-christians-take-up-arms-to-fight-islamic-state-1423017266

If anyone wishes to help out, I know they'd appreciate it:
http://www.restoreninevehnow.org/?page_id=29

As an American, I don't want boots on the ground. Believe me, I'm as war-weary and jaded as you are about our endless campaigns and MIC. I'd love nothing more than to see the Arab world grow a spine and confront these savages themselves instead of constantly turning (and then blaming) the west for everything. Maybe the horrific death of the Jordanian pilot will be a turning point. We shall see.

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Trying to condone the burning to death of a man in a cage [View all] Peacetrain Feb 2015 OP

Great OP yeoman6987 Feb 2015 #1

Have a link to the thread that "tried to justify what ISIS does"? arcane1 Feb 2015 #15

And I wonder if the OP knows the meaning of "condone" Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2015 #25

Apparently, vocabulary and reading comprehension are not the strong suits Maedhros Feb 2015 #28

How about the word "justifying" VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #64

That is silly, how does the truth "justify" what ISIS did? Dragonfli Feb 2015 #100

but to dismiss it BECAUSE of the Crusades IS Justifying it! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #109

But that is an Obama quote. You are saying that he IS justifying it!!~! Since when Dragonfli Feb 2015 #113

No I am not, he didn't dismiss it....that is what some on DU did VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #115

But you were responding to what He said, too late to backpedal now, you have been outed Dragonfli Feb 2015 #116

What???? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #117

I don't have to read your mind or his, I quoted him, I did not Tarot read him Dragonfli Feb 2015 #118

No it wasn't....it was YOUR interpretation of them... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #119

Reread the exchange. You were the one interpreting his words, not me /nt Dragonfli Feb 2015 #120

No....that is not... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #121

Keep telling yourself that, Maybe at least you will believe it. /nt Dragonfli Feb 2015 #122

I certainly don't care what you think.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #123

Conservatives seldom do Dragonfli Feb 2015 #124

I wouldn't know....I'm not one....and neither is President Obama! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #125

Mirror image of when people are asked if they like the ACA and they say yes, but cui bono Feb 2015 #129

That's totally unfair! MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #156

I think I have a solution that would be fair, and I apologize for not stating Dragonfli Feb 2015 #157

Are you seriously attacking our President for speaking the plain truth? MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #114

Link please because no one said that here. Kingofalldems Feb 2015 #72

No, it's not. Hissyspit Feb 2015 #91

K & R. n/t FSogol Feb 2015 #2

who are you talking to? GeorgeGist Feb 2015 #3

Well since Obama said it first, I guess the POTUS!? Rex Feb 2015 #7

Yes and the Inquisitions were evil...pure and simple. Rex Feb 2015 #4

^ BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2015 #31

+1 demmiblue Feb 2015 #37

Why was there a Spanish Inquisition? AngryAmish Feb 2015 #78

Because no one expected it? nomorenomore08 Feb 2015 #85

The biggest distinction I can see is whether it is video taped and uploaded to the internet or not. Electric Monk Feb 2015 #5

Yes. bvf Feb 2015 #14

Like no one has ever faked a video before. truedelphi Feb 2015 #46

Was this the set? AngryAmish Feb 2015 #79

Hmmm...that set looks somehow familiar. brendan120678 Feb 2015 #97

That goes along with my line of thinking. nilesobek Feb 2015 #112

100% correct, but I will tell you that arguing with those who do this is like arguing with anti-vaxx stevenleser Feb 2015 #6

Well, I'll tell you this, dear Steven - my doctor doesn't call me 'fucking stupid'; closeupready Feb 2015 #9

Are you an anti-vaxxer? ConservativeDemocrat Feb 2015 #33

Agreed. And thanks for the reference a while back that explained it to me. freshwest Feb 2015 #19

It is the reasons some attempt to blame the abuse of children on the fact they were Thinkingabout Feb 2015 #43

Okay, so nobody can have a discussion here without your pre-approval? closeupready Feb 2015 #8

Because that's what Peacetrain said. No, wait, Peacetrain ... 11 Bravo Feb 2015 #11

No! but wait! Peacetrain actually said this: closeupready Feb 2015 #16

The OP said "condone" not "conflate" arcane1 Feb 2015 #17

I think Peacetrain meant the word "justify" VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #65

and that is just as dishonest and almost as nasty. A comparison isn't justification either. TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #92

YES! Thank you, well said eissa Feb 2015 #10

Thank you for bringing the reality to us. And tears for the people. freshwest Feb 2015 #21

You got five on it? I'm sure you folks can put your money together and raise a nice mercenary army TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #24

Actually, we are, thanks for bringing it up eissa Feb 2015 #32

That is awesome that folks are serious and appreciate your response. TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #54

The Assyrians have been begging for help for years eissa Feb 2015 #56

Just out of curiosity, what's your opinion on Kurdish resistance groups like the YPG and PKK? My KingCharlemagne Feb 2015 #62

"It's complicated" eissa Feb 2015 #67

Much obliged for this detailed and thoughtful reply. I'm ashamed to admit that I know almost nothing KingCharlemagne Feb 2015 #70

You're not alone eissa Feb 2015 #71

Clarification: my comrades are Socialists and Communists, and not Kurdish per se. That said, they KingCharlemagne Feb 2015 #74

Why do you hate the President? DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #48

What freshwest said. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2015 #53

It's understandable eissa Feb 2015 #58

crucifying and then burying children alive...for just one example of the horror! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #66

...^ that 840high Feb 2015 #88

Thank You! Waiting For Everyman Feb 2015 #12

Tell it to the President, or is he not permitted to bring the past up either? DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #47

I already did (so to speak). Waiting For Everyman Feb 2015 #50

And so you did. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #51

If anyone on DU is "condoning" this, I managed to miss it. arcane1 Feb 2015 #13

I don't know if there are OPs, but I ran across the posts during the night. I skipped them. freshwest Feb 2015 #23

that's because there isn't a soul on this board 'condoning' the ISIS atrocities bigtree Feb 2015 #30

+1 Exactly whatchamacallit Feb 2015 #52

Jingoism - it's not just for Republicans anymore...[n/t] Maedhros Feb 2015 #61

Well said. Thank you. Now I don't have to post that myself. nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2015 #83

applause from the peanut gallery. Perfectly stated. TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #93

Plus one million B2G Feb 2015 #18

more self-important strawshit bigtree Feb 2015 #20

+1 demmiblue Feb 2015 #39

+1,000,000,000,000. closeupready Feb 2015 #59

With respect, I think you are misreading the OP. Which is not hard to do, it is..inelegant... Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #134

ffs, give it a rest bigtree Feb 2015 #139

Wish I could rec this 1000 times. AwakeAtLast Feb 2015 #22

Well said Peacetrain. outside Feb 2015 #26

It might be a valid point, Maedhros Feb 2015 #27

Strawman alert............. yellowcanine Feb 2015 #29

+1. The title of the OP is a **STRAWMAN** Martin Eden Feb 2015 #94

Thank you. cwydro Feb 2015 #34

ISIS also has a lot of support in the Islamic world Warpy Feb 2015 #35

or ISIS murders all the non-participants. Ford_Prefect Feb 2015 #41

ISIS is only getting support from extremists. There's no widespread support for them... Violet_Crumble Feb 2015 #110

Yes, our atrocities are more better because you say so whatchamacallit Feb 2015 #36

Someone's off the beam, and it's you. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #38

what about passive-aggressive accusations and dishonest blood libels? are those good now? MisterP Feb 2015 #40

Strawman AgingAmerican Feb 2015 #42

I don't think anyone's "condoning" these acts.. mountain grammy Feb 2015 #44

Seemingly willful and malicious misrepresentation. If there is a single statement made in support of TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #45

It isn't ann--- Feb 2015 #49

You're right. sybylla Feb 2015 #60

No, no one here is saying that the atrocities committed by ISIS are "no big deal." Vattel Feb 2015 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author markpkessinger Feb 2015 #55

To fail to condemn it anywhere is a failure to condemn it everywhere aint_no_life_nowhere Feb 2015 #57

There are two sides of this discussion..... RationalMan Feb 2015 #63

Sometimes both sides are just fucking wrong. world wide wally Feb 2015 #69

When you condemn ISIS, I agree with you. FiveGoodMen Feb 2015 #73

Post removed Post removed Feb 2015 #75

"They are evil.. pure and simple." < Yeah, that's what they tried to teach us about the Japanese, jtuck004 Feb 2015 #76

NOBODY is trying to condone the actions of ISIS G_j Feb 2015 #77

Two points . . . markpkessinger Feb 2015 #80

+1 Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #81

Stating that a citizen of the US has no standing to comment is not by any means 'condoning' eridani Feb 2015 #82

What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #84

Complete agreement sub.theory Feb 2015 #86

"Any attempt to minimize or equivocate what those devils did is beyond sickening." Hissyspit Feb 2015 #95

Why do some think we have to go back to ancient history to bring up similiar war crimes by the U.S.? dissentient Feb 2015 #87

"Westerners" were equally awful. How does that "condone" anything? enki23 Feb 2015 #89

Didn't you already tweet this under your pseudonym Michelle Malkin? Dragonfli Feb 2015 #90

Comparing the OP to Malkin is an uncalled for totodeinhere Feb 2015 #101

Not a personal attack. the OP holds the same exact position, so on this issue Dragonfli Feb 2015 #102

How can making the comparisons be a slur if they are comparitively the same? rhett o rick Feb 2015 #106

ISIS are literalist muslims. Yorktown Feb 2015 #96

The Book's way or the highway, except if you're Protestant. closeupready Feb 2015 #103

I agree with you. Yo_Mama Feb 2015 #98

just because we have done horrific things, doesnt mean this was not horrific La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2015 #99

I agree completely aint_no_life_nowhere Feb 2015 #104

You should be commended for not sinking to the level of the really unhinged and beyond stupid Number23 Feb 2015 #105

Well don't do that then. Iggo Feb 2015 #107

No one is "condone[ing] the burning to death of a man in a cage" and shame on you to suggest rhett o rick Feb 2015 #108

Well said. You beat me to it... Violet_Crumble Feb 2015 #111

Reading the transcript I think President Obama missed exboyfil Feb 2015 #126

That is what you have gotten out of all the discussion? That the actions by ISIS is being condoned notadmblnd Feb 2015 #127

A thread in response to this very dishonest OP . . . markpkessinger Feb 2015 #128

Strawman. Eko Feb 2015 #130

bingo. . . .n/t annabanana Feb 2015 #131

To explain my rec, I am capable of being outraged by many inhumanities done to man uppityperson Feb 2015 #132

Saying someone is "evil" Eko Feb 2015 #133

Oh. So rather than asking what I mean by that term, you assume, chastise, scold. uppityperson Feb 2015 #135

I dont believe Eko Feb 2015 #136

We all define every word the same way? Again, oh. uppityperson Feb 2015 #138

I will be happy to adress you second point Eko Feb 2015 #142

Go here uppityperson Feb 2015 #145

And you did say ETA Eko Feb 2015 #137

I copy/pasted from the op. Did you know you can edit your posts to add further thoughts? ETA uppityperson Feb 2015 #140

The dictionary Eko Feb 2015 #141

Do you think you and I define "Love" the same as a dictionary or each other? uppityperson Feb 2015 #143

So can you clairify Eko Feb 2015 #146

"morally wrong or bad; immoral; wicked: harmful; injurious: marked by anger, irritability, uppityperson Feb 2015 #147

I will let slide that one of your Eko Feb 2015 #148

165,00 dead Iraqis make it only "misguided" to burn people alive? uppityperson Feb 2015 #149

Pretty sure this was my quote. ETA Eko Feb 2015 #150

I am not your buddy. "The dictionary defines words, if you choose to use a different meaning then uppityperson Feb 2015 #151

In post 146 Eko Feb 2015 #152

I am not your buddy. eom uppityperson Feb 2015 #153

Alright pal. Eko Feb 2015 #154

No, the West has never, ever done anything like what ISIS did . . . markpkessinger Feb 2015 #144

Lololol. Strawman argument Katashi_itto Feb 2015 #155