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Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
58. I disagree. That seemed to play no role in the decision.
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 07:17 PM
Feb 2015

I admit I merely skimmed the opinion and the concurrence, but AFAICT neither made any mention of the distinction between Integrity and Amazon.

The correct explanation is provided by onenote in #44 in this thread. People who condemn the result as unfair are missing the point. SCOTUS isn't responsible for establishing workplace rules that are fair to all workers; it's responsible for interpreting and applying the rules that Congress has established. In this instance, the Court looked at the statute passed by our elected representatives.

These workers probably aren't unionized or otherwise covered by a contract, so they have no legal right to overtime except what's given them under the federal Fair Labor Standards Act (or perhaps by state law but presumably Nevada has no such law). Under the FLSA, there is no right to overtime for time spent in

activities which are preliminary or postliminary to (the employee's) principal activities....


(See the statutory quotation at pages 4-5 of the above-linked opinion.)

Here, all nine Justices agreed that the employees' principal activity is packaging the goods for shipment to customers. The security check, even though mandatory, fell within the exemption that Congress had provided.

In sum, it was Congress's decision that certain activities that take up the worker's time and are required by the employer and are solely for the benefit of the employer are nevertheless not covered by the FLSA. The Supreme Court correctly interpreted that statute and correctly chose to apply the law as written rather than as some of the Justices quite possibly think it should have been written.



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A very very unfair and anti-worker ruling. nt delrem Feb 2015 #1
"Liberals rule with conservatives"... NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #2
money & war. same thing, really. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #3
Shows you who they are REALLY Working for ChosenUnWisely Feb 2015 #6
+1 Scuba Feb 2015 #8
+1 woo me with science Feb 2015 #9
I don't think you should blame SCOTUS here. Vattel Feb 2015 #59
Sounds like Integrity's lawyers wrote the decision and Thomas Pig & Corp. rubber-stamped it. NBachers Feb 2015 #4
So they can take from you to see if you take from them. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2015 #5
Nothing even remotely "liberal" about this bad ruling. blkmusclmachine Feb 2015 #7
kick woo me with science Feb 2015 #10
IT was a unanimous ruling MohRokTah Feb 2015 #11
lol. "your true colors..." ND-Dem Feb 2015 #12
LOL, a unanimous SCOTUS decision leaves no room for controversy. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #13
10 Supreme Court Rulings—Before Hobby Lobby—That Turned Corporations Into People ND-Dem Feb 2015 #14
Neither case you are citing was unanimous. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #15
"10 supreme court rulings..." Are non-employees even allowed into Amazon warehouses? I doubt it. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #17
You cited two cases in your post, and only two. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #18
So, if you compartmentalize and outsource then it is okay to screw workers out of their time? TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #28
These are NOT Amazon workers. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #31
You get a clue, I know plenty about shelling around, vendor arrangements, and contracting. TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #50
You seriously don't know shit if you do not understand different legal corporations... MohRokTah Feb 2015 #51
"How they work" and "How they should work" are not the same thing and TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #53
No, at this level we are talking about long standing tort precedence. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #55
But this has NOTHING TO DO with this case. Yo_Mama Feb 2015 #34
When there is a buck to be made. I keep hearing how important supreme court picks are. Autumn Feb 2015 #16
Again ... now a THIRD time of Amazon bashing sunnystarr Feb 2015 #19
ooh. "amazon-bashing". that sounds awful. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #21
Very interesting nichomachus Feb 2015 #24
That's probably why they classify workers sunnystarr Feb 2015 #37
No, not at all -- none of that nichomachus Feb 2015 #49
Which is why you'd expect sunnystarr Feb 2015 #57
I'm a big Amazon fan but this seems like a very unfair ruling to me. Nye Bevan Feb 2015 #20
The legal reason is the security screening is a facility requirement, not an employer requirement. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #25
Thanks for the detailed explanation (nt) Nye Bevan Feb 2015 #35
You are mistaken. SCOTUS did not deny that the security screening is an employee requirement. Vattel Feb 2015 #56
I disagree. That seemed to play no role in the decision. Jim Lane Feb 2015 #58
There was an earlier case involving mine workers. They would arrive at the mine entrance, but it FSogol Feb 2015 #41
Jewell Ridge v. UMW onenote Feb 2015 #44
Thanks. FSogol Feb 2015 #45
I agree with your point about the FLSA amendment Jim Lane Feb 2015 #60
The ruling is harsh and against common sense. However SCOTUS is tasked with neither whatthehey Feb 2015 #22
If you're required to be on a job site, you're working. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #23
If you're required to be on a job site BY YOUR EMPLOYER, you're working. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #26
"intrepid" = lol. keep pushing the line that *integrity* and amazon are separate companies and that ND-Dem Feb 2015 #27
They ARE separate companies. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #29
Very nice explanation. n/t Yo_Mama Feb 2015 #32
Take your outrage to Congress, where it can achieve something. Yo_Mama Feb 2015 #30
^^^ This right here. eom MohRokTah Feb 2015 #39
Any particular reason why this two month old decision is being discussed now? onenote Feb 2015 #33
The OP is mass posting anything negative about Amazon. eom MohRokTah Feb 2015 #40
Amazon, Walmart, wage slaves, slavery, etc doesn't ring a Bell for anyone? FSogol Feb 2015 #42
I think is obvious that you are Jeff Bezos. Where the all the f'ing books I ordered? FSogol Feb 2015 #46
I can only wish I was! MohRokTah Feb 2015 #47
Yes there is a reason ... sunnystarr Feb 2015 #43
He/she posted four last night. eom MohRokTah Feb 2015 #48
All these companies so worried about "time theft" by their employees Brigid Feb 2015 #36
It's not really "wage theft" when the supreme court rules 9-0 taught_me_patience Feb 2015 #38
If its not an "integral" part of the job...then that means they have the right NOT to put up with it VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #52
Nope onenote Feb 2015 #54
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