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DerekG

(2,935 posts)
49. Well, there's a dark side, and then there's a Dark Side
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 11:25 PM
Feb 2015

Churchill harbored an imperial bloodlust that shocked many of his contemporaries, and this is to be distinguished from, say, FDR--who possessed an innate decency despite questionable policies (e.g., Japanese internment, saturation bombing).

Ever wonder why the British people decided to oust their great hero after WWII was won? It's because he scared the crap out of a lot of even-tempered people.

Is there anyone who approaches importance who doesn't have a dark side? TreasonousBastard Feb 2015 #1
I've never heard of a dark side of President Obama philosslayer Feb 2015 #2
Maybe, but not for the lack of trying... TreasonousBastard Feb 2015 #4
I agree with that wholeheartedly madokie Feb 2015 #26
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Welcome to DU! zappaman Feb 2015 #34
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blocked by congress, as you well know uppityperson Feb 2015 #39
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too bad the repubs had enough votes to block most everything, eh? uppityperson Feb 2015 #41
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Too bad that muslim kenyan didn't use his mind control powers and make them do what he wanted? uppityperson Feb 2015 #44
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Wait. Are you saying President Obama used those mind powers to get people to vote against what uppityperson Feb 2015 #47
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OK, so you're not an Obama fan. Terra Alta Feb 2015 #45
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So you like conservatives like Churchill? greatauntoftriplets Feb 2015 #50
would you have been happier with McCain/Palin or Rmoney? Terra Alta Feb 2015 #52
It's worth mentioning because most people really aren't aware of his more sordid legacies. forest444 Feb 2015 #8
Well, there's a dark side, and then there's a Dark Side DerekG Feb 2015 #49
Oh, I agree... TreasonousBastard Feb 2015 #53
I think I get it. Ye who is without sin may cast the first stone. Dreamer Tatum Feb 2015 #3
People are complicated. Brickbat Feb 2015 #5
And he smoked cigars. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2015 #6
Yes. And I bet he smoked them during meetings of the War Cabinet. Nye Bevan Feb 2015 #17
Lol, cwydro Feb 2015 #38
He was a conservative. What do you expect? denverbill Feb 2015 #7
Gallipoli tenderfoot Feb 2015 #9
And I wonder how many millions Snooty Dave will blow on the "commemoration" this time. forest444 Feb 2015 #10
Yep. Only because was the grandson of the Duke of Marlborough LittleBlue Feb 2015 #54
not suprised, im glad to see theese important facts gaining visibility. TimeToEvolve Feb 2015 #11
YES. Remember all those countries Churchill invaded when he returned to power in 1951? Nye Bevan Feb 2015 #16
Egypt and Kenya certainly did forest444 Feb 2015 #27
Not that much different in those respects to his near-contemporary Teddy Roosevelt Spider Jerusalem Feb 2015 #12
Both had dark sides; but with a difference: forest444 Feb 2015 #18
And Mussolini made the trains run on time. Nye Bevan Feb 2015 #20
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We should pretty much dig up all of those folks, put them on trial, and hang their corpses (nt) Nye Bevan Feb 2015 #19
Lots of admired persons from history have sordid pasts. Margaret Sanger of PP, anyone? ARMYofONE Feb 2015 #13
George Washington was a racist slaveholder. Jefferson was a racist slaveholder who raped his slaves. Nye Bevan Feb 2015 #14
Mother Theresa actually was awful. smirkymonkey Feb 2015 #30
one of the ways they would justify taking over other nations JI7 Feb 2015 #15
He's high on the list of the worst monsters of the 20th Century cpwm17 Feb 2015 #21
+1 forest444 Feb 2015 #22
Thread winner malaise Feb 2015 #24
Truth, as Churchill himself once admitted, forest444 Feb 2015 #25
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Churchill one of the worst monsters of the 20th century? cwydro Feb 2015 #42
He was an arsehole. sibelian Feb 2015 #23
He hurt a lot of good people with the Gold Standard in the 1920s, and it probably didn't bother him forest444 Feb 2015 #31
Great men are almost always bad men. Lord Acton Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #28
You left out the context: forest444 Feb 2015 #29
Complications of a simple point in time seveneyes Feb 2015 #32
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