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Zenlitened

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128. Is it possible you don't actually know...

Thu Feb 5, 2015, 11:56 PM

Feb 2015

...what the term "dog whistle" means?

How embarrassing.

Here's an example: citing "defense of the family" is thinly-veiled code for slandering and smearing gay and lesbian people.

A favored tactic of homophobes, along with other techniques of dissembling, deflection and obfuscation.

They're tiresome, and certainly transparent, and yet oddly tenacious about it.

As we see in the case of this pope, and the discussion he too often inspires.

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Pope Endorses Referendum Denying Marriage And Adoption Rights To Same-Sex Couples [View all] Zenlitened Feb 2015 OP

But, but, but he's our new wonderful liberal pope. HERVEPA Feb 2015 #1

This! n/t marym625 Feb 2015 #3

That was always just BS. Here's the new pope, same as the old pope, just djean111 Feb 2015 #47

Are you Catholic? sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #54

That makes no difference to anything. A completely irrelevant question. closeupready Feb 2015 #56

Then why did that person post that he was their new wonderful liberal pope? sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #61

Not surprised marym625 Feb 2015 #2

His many defenders and promoters on DU will never comment on this Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #4

They have no fucking convictions at all. William769 Feb 2015 #12

But later they will post photos of him hand feeding a panda bear and they'll all swoon and delcare Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #16

With a few prominent skepticscott Feb 2015 #114

I never judged the pope, but had hopes for him. Lucky Luciano Feb 2015 #38

Pope Francis represents a small step to the left, returning to the position of John Paul II, after AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #42

But in reality, Ratzinger wrote entire books about globalization and income inequality and actually Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #51

That's a good point, but Ratzinger failed *hard* on the PR aspect of it. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #53

Yup. Nor will the thousands of the laity who, conversely, demand that muslims loudly denounce closeupready Feb 2015 #57

And there it is. The Pope is Catholic. MineralMan Feb 2015 #5

What say you now, Pope Slobberers? Arugula Latte Feb 2015 #6

Of course he did. PeaceNikki Feb 2015 #7

Still want him to speak to our Congress? If that occurs, what position does the Jefferson23 Feb 2015 #8

His 'help' is not welcome nor wanted in any capacity. Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #11

The Democrats in power want him there, so it is a problem.They're already Jefferson23 Feb 2015 #15

Says who? Boehner invited him. You straight folks need to start paying your own damn price Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #19

Pelosi objected? It is you who needs to learn what is going on and who is using who. Jefferson23 Feb 2015 #20

You said 'the Democrats in power want him there' Pelosi is one person. Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #21

Oh yea, she has no power and where are all the other Demorats who have voiced Jefferson23 Feb 2015 #23

You were asking what price we were willing to pay for his help on income inequality. Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #25

Collectively, in all my posts, I don't feel I am the one who did not speak clearly. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2015 #27

Tell him to take a long walk off a short pier. William769 Feb 2015 #14

They won't do that, and it gets too cozy for him to speak there, I think. Jefferson23 Feb 2015 #17

President Obama's SOTU was pretty clear. William769 Feb 2015 #22

He should not speak before Congress, it is asking for trouble. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2015 #24

Glad to see you spell that out. Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #26

But, but, but, this can't be true! EvolveOrConvolve Feb 2015 #9

Well, bvf Feb 2015 #31

That's very Jesus like of him. William769 Feb 2015 #10

Oh, but he's so charming or something! REP Feb 2015 #13

Spreading love and the bonding of people as usual, NOT!!! This pope's hatefulness turns my stomach. RKP5637 Feb 2015 #18

As a heretic Catholic, in a heretic family... hunter Feb 2015 #28

Naturally. n/t. bvf Feb 2015 #29

Is that what Jesus would do, Francis? nt SunSeeker Feb 2015 #30

so pope photo op is at it again. niyad Feb 2015 #32

Remember that time buzzfeed reported the Pope said cats and dogs could go to Heaven? krawhitham Feb 2015 #33

That was a satire site, that got taken seriously. This material is from the Catholic News Service AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #40

Ugh... sakabatou Feb 2015 #34

The bestest most liberal Pope Evaaa!!!!!! obxhead Feb 2015 #35

He has no more authority to speak on civil law in Slovakia than he does in Indiana. rug Feb 2015 #36

What a pathetic deflection. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #39

Happily, this poster is a lone voice here skepticscott Feb 2015 #45

I was wondering who would show up to defend the faith. Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #49

I know there are still knee-jerk defenders skepticscott Feb 2015 #50

Get off your high horse. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2015 #58

Oh please...he's not even making a teensy diversion from bigotry skepticscott Feb 2015 #59

You're outing yourself, scottie. rug Feb 2015 #66

The issue at hand is more than sufficient. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #79

Ah. he tagged the peanut gallery instead. rug Feb 2015 #81

Nobody 'tagged' anything. If you want your exchanges private, use PM's. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #83

When I want to discuss something with you, AC, you will know it. rug Feb 2015 #85

That's what I thought. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #89

FYI - This post was sent to jury. TM99 Feb 2015 #110

Of course it was. Thanks for posting the results. rug Feb 2015 #118

The pope has no intent to turn on this issue at all. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #76

You've always had a probelm with facts, nuance and context Warren. rug Feb 2015 #65

And he didn't disappoint skepticscott Feb 2015 #69

The passive-agressive indirect ad homs you post are still ad homs. rug Feb 2015 #88

You still don't disappoint skepticscott Feb 2015 #95

The only disappoint I see here is your failure to back up your accusation. rug Feb 2015 #98

I accused you skepticscott Feb 2015 #105

That is a predictably weaselly answer from you. rug Feb 2015 #107

Did you drop your alleged ignore list to post this? rug Feb 2015 #64

Let's see if you have the integrity skepticscott Feb 2015 #71

Good, let's use clear words instead of weaseling. rug Feb 2015 #86

You were challenged to quote me directly skepticscott Feb 2015 #111

Oh? You were not accusing me of defending homophobic bigotry? rug Feb 2015 #117

You are actively engaged in this thread, deflecting for a man who is engaged in homophobic bigotry. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #82

Shoo, someone else has my attention. rug Feb 2015 #87

I know reading timestamps can be tricky, but I engaged you in this thread before he showed up. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #91

Good, keep reading timestamps. rug Feb 2015 #96

No weasels in post 82. Let's see you actually respond to it, eh? AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #99

Order takeout. rug Feb 2015 #100

Yeah, that's what I thought. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #102

This poster needs to look in the mirror skepticscott Feb 2015 #112

Ah, you're back to the passive-aggressive indirect ad homs. rug Feb 2015 #120

jury duty brought me here ... was there a glitch or is this longest jury result ever? *update* Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2015 #70

alerted at 1:44pm Results at 4:45pm ... gotta be a contender for the title. right? Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2015 #72

I would assume that to be a time-zone differential in the text of the timestamp, but AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #94

why would my time stamp vary? but, Yes Juror #1 went over, above and beyond the call of duty. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2015 #104

Well, the site software might do something silly like record the client timestamp of submission AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #108

Must have been a glitch skepticscott Feb 2015 #77

Those four you already have must have been glitches. rug Feb 2015 #90

How many "glitches" do you have? truebrit71 Feb 2015 #119

Take a look. Why, it's simply one more than you! rug Feb 2015 #121

One more? truebrit71 Feb 2015 #122

The night is young, brit. rug Feb 2015 #123

This isn't your usual playground rug... truebrit71 Feb 2015 #124

I don't do playgrounds, brit. rug Feb 2015 #125

Nope, i prefer adult conversation, with fellow grown-ups.... truebrit71 Feb 2015 #126

Oh, I can see that. rug Feb 2015 #127

So, tell us what smileys mean then. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #130

Tell me who "us" is. rug Feb 2015 #133

On this thread, everyone but you apparently. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #135

No one but you has asked, apparently. rug Feb 2015 #141

Why so coy? AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #144

Are you still subbing for scottie? rug Feb 2015 #147

Deflection ++ AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #153

Refraction. rug Feb 2015 #155

rug never answers a direct question.... truebrit71 Feb 2015 #151

Present company excepted of course.. truebrit71 Feb 2015 #134

The only pathos here is your inveterate hatred of anything concerning any Pope. rug Feb 2015 #62

In this case, they are one and the same. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #73

As a matter of raw political science, they're not. rug Feb 2015 #92

The pope approaches both elements from the same position. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #97

The OP is about a specific event. rug Feb 2015 #103

A specific event for which the pope, and the curch separately have recent and enduring history on. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #109

are you chiding the poster for "hating" (your word, not his) the Pope? CreekDog Feb 2015 #74

Interesting how "anti-Catholic bullshit" really gets your goat, yet anti-gay and Arugula Latte Feb 2015 #148

Interesting how you place your thoughts in my head. rug Feb 2015 #154

So... when he says something "nice and compassionate" he's a strong voice with power and influence PeaceNikki Feb 2015 #55

Where has he said that and who has said that about what you say he said? rug Feb 2015 #67

by supporting the referendum and actions of the church in Slovakia which would deny their rights CreekDog Feb 2015 #78

Read the post I was replying too. rug Feb 2015 #84

I find that statement incredibly naive. Zenlitened Feb 2015 #101

I find the headline you posted to be incredible flamebait. rug Feb 2015 #106

"Flamebait"? Is that how we now refer... Zenlitened Feb 2015 #113

No, that's how "we" refer to inaccurate headlines and incomplete news articles. rug Feb 2015 #116

Is it possible you don't actually know... Zenlitened Feb 2015 #128

All sorts of dogs react to all sorts of whistles, as is evident here. rug Feb 2015 #129

28 posts in this thread. The first, a disingenuous deflection. The rest, just quibbling with meta. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #131

I forgot that providing context antagonizes you. rug Feb 2015 #132

Oh please. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #138

You must consider anything that does not align with wherever your thoughts are to be a deflection. rug Feb 2015 #139

No, THIS is a deflection. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #143

"semi-captive audience"? rug Feb 2015 #146

Yes, semi-captive. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #152

Results... Major Nikon Feb 2015 #149

Thanks for posting the results. rug Feb 2015 #150

it's an accurate headline CreekDog Feb 2015 #136

You're a poor psychoanalyst CreekDog. rug Feb 2015 #137

You read them all? CreekDog Feb 2015 #140

Now that you mention it, no. There may be one or two where you exhibited shame. rug Feb 2015 #142

But but but he had a press release about... BrotherIvan Feb 2015 #37

this Pope isn't really any different from other Popes and Catholic Leaders, they have almost always JI7 Feb 2015 #41

Francis is hatemongering again. As predictable as the sunrise. nt Zorra Feb 2015 #43

Seems like Francis is the one with the Hate....... Marrah_G Feb 2015 #52

Who is surprised by this? Behind the Aegis Feb 2015 #44

Certainly no one who has been paying attention this whole time... trotsky Feb 2015 #48

... SidDithers Feb 2015 #46

+1 Go Vols Feb 2015 #156

Weak, corrupt carpet-bagging. n/t Orsino Feb 2015 #60

Lots of carpet baggery skepticscott Feb 2015 #158

Bigotry from the catholic church? horrifying! Shocking! oh my! La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2015 #63

The pope is just a man with a funny hat. lynne Feb 2015 #68

Unfortunately, that is simply not true: Zenlitened Feb 2015 #93

What is he doing getting into politics? KamaAina Feb 2015 #75

That stinks and is highly disappointing. I want to be able to get married in every state and country hrmjustin Feb 2015 #80

Separation of Church and State, please. bigwillq Feb 2015 #115

Not surprising in the least riderinthestorm Feb 2015 #145

"A big billboard of Pope Francis hangs over the centre of Slovakia�s capital, urging citizens..." Zenlitened Feb 2015 #157