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Showing Original Post only (View all)Krugman: 'We're Rapidly Approaching A Moment Of Truth' - NYT [View all]
A Game of ChickenPaul Krugman - NYT
FEB. 6, 2015
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On Wednesday, the European Central Bank announced that it would no longer accept Greek government debt as collateral for loans. This move, it turns out, was more symbolic than substantive. Still, the moment of truth is clearly approaching.
And its a moment of truth not just for Greece, but for the whole of Europe and, in particular, for the central bank, which may soon have to decide whom it really works for.
Basically, the current situation may be summarized with the following dialogue:
Germany to Greece: Nice banking system you got there. Be a shame if something were to happen to it.
Greece to Germany: Oh, yeah? Well, wed hate to see your nice, shiny European Union get all banged up.
Or if you want the stuffier version, Germany is demanding that Greece keep trying to pay its debts in full by imposing incredibly harsh austerity. The implied threat if Greece refuses is that the central bank will cut off the support it gives to Greek banks, which is what Wednesdays move sounded like but wasnt. And that would wreak havoc with Greeces already terrible economy.
Yet pulling the plug on Greece would pose enormous risks, not just to Europes economy, but to the whole European project, the 60-year effort to build peace and democracy through shared prosperity. A Greek banking collapse would probably lead Greece to leave the euro and establish its own currency and if even one country were to abandon the euro, investors would be put on notice that Europes grand currency design is reversible.
Beyond that, chaos in Greece could fuel the sinister political forces that have been gaining influence as Europes Second Great Depression goes on and on. After a tense meeting with his German counterpart, the new Greek finance minister didnt hesitate to play the 1930s card. Nazism, he declared, is raising its ugly head in Greece a reference to Golden Dawn, the not-so-neo-Nazi party that is now the third largest in the Greek legislature.
What were looking at here is, in short, a very dangerous confrontation. This isnt diplomacy as usual; this is a game of chicken, of two trucks loaded with dynamite barreling toward each other on a narrow mountain road, with neither willing to turn aside. And all of this is taking place within the European Union, which is supposed to be indeed, has been, until now an institution that promotes productive cooperation.
How did Europe get to this point? And whats the end game?
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More: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/06/opinion/a-game-of-chicken.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=c-column-top-span-region®ion=c-column-top-span-region&WT.nav=c-column-top-span-region&_r=0
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I thnk Greece will leave the EU. How the EU survives the economic fallout is not to be guessed.
Agnosticsherbet
Feb 2015
#1
Scotland had a recent secession vote that failed, but as a means of defusing such ideas,
closeupready
Feb 2015
#10
Srsly? You think Germany, as leader of the EU and the biggest proponent of austerity,
truebluegreen
Feb 2015
#27
The EU does not have a military. The inidividual nations do have militaries, but I don't think
Agnosticsherbet
Feb 2015
#45
They survivied before the EU existed. They could find away to suvive without it.
Agnosticsherbet
Feb 2015
#48
The Euro was a bad idea because they did not integrate their economic system.
Agnosticsherbet
Feb 2015
#58
....will have to be fought sooner or later is the people versus the banks.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Feb 2015
#11
HOW'D they REALLY get there? It's like the sub-prime mortgage crisis of 2007-2008...
MrMickeysMom
Feb 2015
#51
The euro was created precisely to bring about the mess we're seeing in Greece, Spain, etc.
nichomachus
Feb 2015
#18
I think nation states should control their own fiscal, economic and trade policies.
CJCRANE
Feb 2015
#23
I love it -- anything someone doesn't like to hear is a "Conspiracy Theory"
nichomachus
Feb 2015
#38
You may be interested in Professor Bill Black who has written on the subject in addition to your
Jefferson23
Feb 2015
#32