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37. People like Ed Snowden expose the crimes authorized by People like Dick Cheney.

Fri Feb 6, 2015, 07:42 PM

Feb 2015

Yet Dick Cheney roams free and Ed Snowden is forced to seek political asylum.

Sorry, but your comparison just seems too fallacy laden.

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In Latest Vindication of Snowden, Court Rules UK Mass Surveillance Illegal [View all] 99th_Monkey Feb 2015 OP

If only we had something like a court here. Autumn Feb 2015 #1

Indeed. +200 nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2015 #9

It's All About Drugs and Money Here billhicks76 Feb 2015 #21

It's about G.O.D.! wildbilln864 Feb 2015 #43

All of the story ButchT Feb 2015 #95

K&R +1000000000000 misterhighwasted Feb 2015 #2

Wow. The UK's checks-and-balances appear to be at least minimally intact. Maedhros Feb 2015 #3

And just wait until the near future when America's truedelphi Feb 2015 #4

"Wrong thinking is punishable." Maedhros Feb 2015 #14

They're intact - and quite solid. mwooldri Feb 2015 #16

RE: the media... Maedhros Feb 2015 #17

Report Indicates Snowden/Greenwald Lied About Key Claims uhnope Feb 2015 #40

the people in the comments section of that anti snowden hit piece on KOS m-lekktor Feb 2015 #41

Can you show me the comments you are referring to? I didn't see any shredding uhnope Feb 2015 #42

oh just stop grasswire Feb 2015 #61

And that assumes they are actually party loyalist...for the Dems. zeemike Feb 2015 #72

I'm a Democrat, I like Obama and I support Whistleblowers. nt Duval Feb 2015 #91

Thank you for posting this important British advance. truedelphi Feb 2015 #5

K&R lovuian Feb 2015 #6

Yah, what about our courts ... 99th_Monkey Feb 2015 #24

Ok, ok, once again people are totally misunderstanding the vilification of the Snowman. rhett o rick Feb 2015 #7

You're missing the sarcasm tag LiberalLovinLug Feb 2015 #12

Sorry about that. I think that danged Manny the Third Way rubbed off on me. nm rhett o rick Feb 2015 #13

I think they have begun to realise that their presence is actually counterproductive. sibelian Feb 2015 #103

K & R !!! WillyT Feb 2015 #8

Judicial independence in America was sacrificed on the altar of partisan politics long ago. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #18

the court Ichingcarpenter Feb 2015 #10

Kick and R. BeanMusical Feb 2015 #11

We don't need no stikin' court to tell us that the Constitution says that mass rhett o rick Feb 2015 #15

Our problem on this site is that ANY criticism of problematic governmental behavior Maedhros Feb 2015 #19

It's a strange phenomenon, the way that happens. Just criticize Bush holdovers eg, Gates, and the sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #25

It would be funny, were it not so absolutely sad. [n/t] Maedhros Feb 2015 #34

I see it as an authoritarian behavior. It's much easier to trust the decisions of the rhett o rick Feb 2015 #59

Yes, you said it very well. nm rhett o rick Feb 2015 #60

Thank you. woo me with science Feb 2015 #47

Every day Snowden is made to wait for clemency the administration looks more ridiculous. pa28 Feb 2015 #20

Uh huh, I'll support clemency for Snowden the same day that I support it for Cheney. cstanleytech Feb 2015 #22

So what War Crimes did Snowden commit? Torture, burn civilians to death with WP? I'm at a loss as sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #26

sabrina dont play coy. cstanleytech Feb 2015 #28

I'm not playing coy. You made a comparison between a dangerous, lying War Criminal and a sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #31

Negative the comparison is about two criminals both of whom have their supporters cstanleytech Feb 2015 #33

When a law is detrimental to the liberties and freedoms of people it does not have to be followed Vincardog Feb 2015 #48

So Cheney breaking the law and authorizing torture should be ignored your saying because cstanleytech Feb 2015 #50

No. You are saying that. Cheney is a war criminal, he should be at the world court. Do you even Vincardog Feb 2015 #52

Those where some of your own words though. cstanleytech Feb 2015 #54

Have you always been an authoritarian? Vincardog Feb 2015 #55

Ok...................plonk. cstanleytech Feb 2015 #56

authoritarian |əˌTH�riˈte(ə)rēən, �ˌTH�r-| adjective favoring or enforcing strict obedience to autho Vincardog Feb 2015 #57

Well if you think Whistle Blowers = War Criminals I suppose it makes to YOU! sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #78

Arggg is it really to hard for you to admit that Snowden broke the law? Is it? cstanleytech Feb 2015 #94

He who loves law but hates justice is a fool TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #106

No man is above the law and no man is below it cstanleytech Feb 2015 #109

When I see posts like that LittleBlue Feb 2015 #77

I know. For years, DU was a safe haven from the garbage posted on sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #80

You expect everyone on DU to support Eddie's actions? treestar Feb 2015 #85

DU GummyBearz Feb 2015 #88

So if we don't believe Comrade Eddie did any such thing treestar Feb 2015 #97

Not kicked off GummyBearz Feb 2015 #99

Well I think it should be openly mocked treestar Feb 2015 #100

I do not expect to see a Whistle Blower compared to a War Criminal on a Democratic site. sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #92

Those are your conclusions treestar Feb 2015 #98

People like Ed Snowden expose the crimes authorized by People like Dick Cheney. pa28 Feb 2015 #37

Considering you support Snowden I will give your opinion the same consideration cstanleytech Feb 2015 #39

And considering that is your rationale for no consideration... MrMickeysMom Feb 2015 #44

You are right my ideology of people who break the law should be prosecuted is showing just cstanleytech Feb 2015 #46

I think you should take back what you said� MrMickeysMom Feb 2015 #68

And those that violate the Constitution? Broward Feb 2015 #74

Has Snowden moved into Cryptoad Feb 2015 #23

Ah, a little late, but DU's fascism-supporters are finally here Dopers_Greed Feb 2015 #27

Like Anti-Vaxxers, the Anti-Civil-Rights people Maedhros Feb 2015 #35

It would be so much easier if they were all the same people. Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #69

you find it hard to take unless people are in lockstep treestar Feb 2015 #86

We were having fun in the 50 Shades and SI Swimsuit threads. Comrade Eddie msanthrope Feb 2015 #53

Lol. Spinning away... K+R riderinthestorm Feb 2015 #66

Failing to go along with Eddie is fascism treestar Feb 2015 #84

And Stasi. You know...now that Snowden has been vindicated, msanthrope Feb 2015 #93

And this is only the "latest" vindication treestar Feb 2015 #96

K&R ! 2banon Feb 2015 #29

Are they still conflating PRISM with mass surveillance? randome Feb 2015 #30

UK security agency GCHQ gaining information from world's biggest internet firms through US-run Prism MrMickeysMom Feb 2015 #45

+1000 nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2015 #49

Because PRISM represents a secure FTP server, not a mass collection station. randome Feb 2015 #76

So, by your logic, it's okay if we are monitored, as long as it's a secure FTP server... MrMickeysMom Feb 2015 #83

It is a secure FTP server where data is placed that is obtained via warrant. randome Feb 2015 #89

Do you hear yourself right now? MrMickeysMom Feb 2015 #90

Well in all fairness Rex Feb 2015 #105

Yeah� MrMickeysMom Feb 2015 #107

No no! It's more like this... hootinholler Feb 2015 #102

No hero worship or bias in "Common Dreams" articles, nosiree... uhnope Feb 2015 #32

Yep, Andy823 Feb 2015 #38

Standing with someone who has put their entire life on the line so that We the People 99th_Monkey Feb 2015 #51

inflating someone like that when in fact he didn't take a stand...he hid in totalitarian regimes uhnope Feb 2015 #62

I prefer to let each nations own people decide for themselves 99th_Monkey Feb 2015 #65

But..but..the NSA is protecting us...from..from..knowing what our transparent government does!! Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #36

Rec this thread Ramses Feb 2015 #58

yes yes grasswire Feb 2015 #64

yes 840high Feb 2015 #67

Unless Verizon crossed the pond at some point ucrdem Feb 2015 #63

All this illegal spying needs to cease. JEB Feb 2015 #70

There is no "vindication" for his actions. Buzz Clik Feb 2015 #71

Since Obama won't hold CIA and NSA accountable, someone else must. Democrats lack courage of whereisjustice Feb 2015 #73

it sounds like a victory in name only, not one that is going to change practices much. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #75

Edward Snowden is my hero daredtowork Feb 2015 #79

The group on DU who consider him a Hero are only angry because the President is a Democrat Savannahmann Feb 2015 #81

That's probably the gist of it daredtowork Feb 2015 #82

Bingo. Just shows you how shallow and immature they are, incapable of working for common good. They whereisjustice Feb 2015 #104

+100 nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2015 #87

To the Greatest Page. woo me with science Feb 2015 #101

K&R� MrMickeysMom Feb 2015 #108