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In reply to the discussion: Hillary Clinton is the Kevin Bacon of Wall Street. [View all]merrily
(45,251 posts)He was attempting to Slick Willy us. In the Paula Jones case, both sides had agreed to a definition of the term "sexual relations" that (inexplicably, from Jones's POV) did not include blow jobs. The agreed upon definition, of course, had no application outside the case. However, I think Slick was building into his denial an "out" for himself, if he got caught.
Not a big point, but I don't know if Genifer when, according to her, the affair between her and Bubba began. In 1992, when he was running for POTUS, she said it had been a 12 year affair. So, that puts the start at 1980 or earlier. He said it was a one time thing in 1977. Either way, her wiki gives her first screen credit as 1987.
I find any agreement by Hillary to an open marriage hard to reconcile with the events as the Monica Lewinsky thing began surfacing. Hillary, who had some ambitions of her own, even while her husband was POTUS, went on the Today Show and put her own credibility on the line.
Matt Lauer asked her about the buzz, as both Bubba and Hillary had to have known he would. When Lauer did ask her the inevitable question, she claimed to Matt Lauer that Bill had said to her, "You'll never believe what they are saying now." And she followed that up with her now infamous statement about the vast right wing conspiracy that had been after Bill since he took office. Thing is, her statement was true, enough. They had hounded him, hoping to find something. But, because she made the statement in the context of the Lewinsky thing, she became the object of derision.
If Billary had agreed to an open marriage, why would Bubba have allowed her to go on the Today Show without confessing the truth to her first? Why would he have let her sandbag herself?
Later, after the truth did come out, Hillary did not look as though she knew it all along. Right now, the amount of googling that I was willing to do yielded only this photo of the First Family's August 13, 1998 departure from the WH to a Martha's Vineyard vacation.
However, at the time the only photo I saw was the front view of those three (plus the dog), with Hillary looking pretty damned mad.
http://www.trbimg.com/img-517d7a78/turbine/chi-souzab00520090105133045/500/500x281
But, you know what? Being beyond tired of reviewing all of this is just one more reason I don't want DLC/Third Way Hillary to be the Democratic nominee for POTUS in 2016, or ever.