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randome

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89. It is a secure FTP server where data is placed that is obtained via warrant.

Sat Feb 7, 2015, 03:45 PM

Feb 2015

Then the data is transmitted to whatever law enforcement agency it is intended for. That's what Google, Microsoft, Facebook, everybody says happens.

Arguing against mass surveillance is understandable but PRISM is not that.
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In Latest Vindication of Snowden, Court Rules UK Mass Surveillance Illegal [View all] 99th_Monkey Feb 2015 OP

If only we had something like a court here. Autumn Feb 2015 #1

Indeed. +200 nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2015 #9

It's All About Drugs and Money Here billhicks76 Feb 2015 #21

It's about G.O.D.! wildbilln864 Feb 2015 #43

All of the story ButchT Feb 2015 #95

K&R +1000000000000 misterhighwasted Feb 2015 #2

Wow. The UK's checks-and-balances appear to be at least minimally intact. Maedhros Feb 2015 #3

And just wait until the near future when America's truedelphi Feb 2015 #4

"Wrong thinking is punishable." Maedhros Feb 2015 #14

They're intact - and quite solid. mwooldri Feb 2015 #16

RE: the media... Maedhros Feb 2015 #17

Report Indicates Snowden/Greenwald Lied About Key Claims uhnope Feb 2015 #40

the people in the comments section of that anti snowden hit piece on KOS m-lekktor Feb 2015 #41

Can you show me the comments you are referring to? I didn't see any shredding uhnope Feb 2015 #42

oh just stop grasswire Feb 2015 #61

And that assumes they are actually party loyalist...for the Dems. zeemike Feb 2015 #72

I'm a Democrat, I like Obama and I support Whistleblowers. nt Duval Feb 2015 #91

Thank you for posting this important British advance. truedelphi Feb 2015 #5

K&R lovuian Feb 2015 #6

Yah, what about our courts ... 99th_Monkey Feb 2015 #24

Ok, ok, once again people are totally misunderstanding the vilification of the Snowman. rhett o rick Feb 2015 #7

You're missing the sarcasm tag LiberalLovinLug Feb 2015 #12

Sorry about that. I think that danged Manny the Third Way rubbed off on me. nm rhett o rick Feb 2015 #13

I think they have begun to realise that their presence is actually counterproductive. sibelian Feb 2015 #103

K & R !!! WillyT Feb 2015 #8

Judicial independence in America was sacrificed on the altar of partisan politics long ago. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #18

the court Ichingcarpenter Feb 2015 #10

Kick and R. BeanMusical Feb 2015 #11

We don't need no stikin' court to tell us that the Constitution says that mass rhett o rick Feb 2015 #15

Our problem on this site is that ANY criticism of problematic governmental behavior Maedhros Feb 2015 #19

It's a strange phenomenon, the way that happens. Just criticize Bush holdovers eg, Gates, and the sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #25

It would be funny, were it not so absolutely sad. [n/t] Maedhros Feb 2015 #34

I see it as an authoritarian behavior. It's much easier to trust the decisions of the rhett o rick Feb 2015 #59

Yes, you said it very well. nm rhett o rick Feb 2015 #60

Thank you. woo me with science Feb 2015 #47

Every day Snowden is made to wait for clemency the administration looks more ridiculous. pa28 Feb 2015 #20

Uh huh, I'll support clemency for Snowden the same day that I support it for Cheney. cstanleytech Feb 2015 #22

So what War Crimes did Snowden commit? Torture, burn civilians to death with WP? I'm at a loss as sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #26

sabrina dont play coy. cstanleytech Feb 2015 #28

I'm not playing coy. You made a comparison between a dangerous, lying War Criminal and a sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #31

Negative the comparison is about two criminals both of whom have their supporters cstanleytech Feb 2015 #33

When a law is detrimental to the liberties and freedoms of people it does not have to be followed Vincardog Feb 2015 #48

So Cheney breaking the law and authorizing torture should be ignored your saying because cstanleytech Feb 2015 #50

No. You are saying that. Cheney is a war criminal, he should be at the world court. Do you even Vincardog Feb 2015 #52

Those where some of your own words though. cstanleytech Feb 2015 #54

Have you always been an authoritarian? Vincardog Feb 2015 #55

Ok...................plonk. cstanleytech Feb 2015 #56

authoritarian |əˌTH�riˈte(ə)rēən, �ˌTH�r-| adjective favoring or enforcing strict obedience to autho Vincardog Feb 2015 #57

Well if you think Whistle Blowers = War Criminals I suppose it makes to YOU! sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #78

Arggg is it really to hard for you to admit that Snowden broke the law? Is it? cstanleytech Feb 2015 #94

He who loves law but hates justice is a fool TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #106

No man is above the law and no man is below it cstanleytech Feb 2015 #109

When I see posts like that LittleBlue Feb 2015 #77

I know. For years, DU was a safe haven from the garbage posted on sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #80

You expect everyone on DU to support Eddie's actions? treestar Feb 2015 #85

DU GummyBearz Feb 2015 #88

So if we don't believe Comrade Eddie did any such thing treestar Feb 2015 #97

Not kicked off GummyBearz Feb 2015 #99

Well I think it should be openly mocked treestar Feb 2015 #100

I do not expect to see a Whistle Blower compared to a War Criminal on a Democratic site. sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #92

Those are your conclusions treestar Feb 2015 #98

People like Ed Snowden expose the crimes authorized by People like Dick Cheney. pa28 Feb 2015 #37

Considering you support Snowden I will give your opinion the same consideration cstanleytech Feb 2015 #39

And considering that is your rationale for no consideration... MrMickeysMom Feb 2015 #44

You are right my ideology of people who break the law should be prosecuted is showing just cstanleytech Feb 2015 #46

I think you should take back what you said� MrMickeysMom Feb 2015 #68

And those that violate the Constitution? Broward Feb 2015 #74

Has Snowden moved into Cryptoad Feb 2015 #23

Ah, a little late, but DU's fascism-supporters are finally here Dopers_Greed Feb 2015 #27

Like Anti-Vaxxers, the Anti-Civil-Rights people Maedhros Feb 2015 #35

It would be so much easier if they were all the same people. Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #69

you find it hard to take unless people are in lockstep treestar Feb 2015 #86

We were having fun in the 50 Shades and SI Swimsuit threads. Comrade Eddie msanthrope Feb 2015 #53

Lol. Spinning away... K+R riderinthestorm Feb 2015 #66

Failing to go along with Eddie is fascism treestar Feb 2015 #84

And Stasi. You know...now that Snowden has been vindicated, msanthrope Feb 2015 #93

And this is only the "latest" vindication treestar Feb 2015 #96

K&R ! 2banon Feb 2015 #29

Are they still conflating PRISM with mass surveillance? randome Feb 2015 #30

UK security agency GCHQ gaining information from world's biggest internet firms through US-run Prism MrMickeysMom Feb 2015 #45

+1000 nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2015 #49

Because PRISM represents a secure FTP server, not a mass collection station. randome Feb 2015 #76

So, by your logic, it's okay if we are monitored, as long as it's a secure FTP server... MrMickeysMom Feb 2015 #83

It is a secure FTP server where data is placed that is obtained via warrant. randome Feb 2015 #89

Do you hear yourself right now? MrMickeysMom Feb 2015 #90

Well in all fairness Rex Feb 2015 #105

Yeah� MrMickeysMom Feb 2015 #107

No no! It's more like this... hootinholler Feb 2015 #102

No hero worship or bias in "Common Dreams" articles, nosiree... uhnope Feb 2015 #32

Yep, Andy823 Feb 2015 #38

Standing with someone who has put their entire life on the line so that We the People 99th_Monkey Feb 2015 #51

inflating someone like that when in fact he didn't take a stand...he hid in totalitarian regimes uhnope Feb 2015 #62

I prefer to let each nations own people decide for themselves 99th_Monkey Feb 2015 #65

But..but..the NSA is protecting us...from..from..knowing what our transparent government does!! Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #36

Rec this thread Ramses Feb 2015 #58

yes yes grasswire Feb 2015 #64

yes 840high Feb 2015 #67

Unless Verizon crossed the pond at some point ucrdem Feb 2015 #63

All this illegal spying needs to cease. JEB Feb 2015 #70

There is no "vindication" for his actions. Buzz Clik Feb 2015 #71

Since Obama won't hold CIA and NSA accountable, someone else must. Democrats lack courage of whereisjustice Feb 2015 #73

it sounds like a victory in name only, not one that is going to change practices much. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #75

Edward Snowden is my hero daredtowork Feb 2015 #79

The group on DU who consider him a Hero are only angry because the President is a Democrat Savannahmann Feb 2015 #81

That's probably the gist of it daredtowork Feb 2015 #82

Bingo. Just shows you how shallow and immature they are, incapable of working for common good. They whereisjustice Feb 2015 #104

+100 nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2015 #87

To the Greatest Page. woo me with science Feb 2015 #101

K&R� MrMickeysMom Feb 2015 #108