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In reply to the discussion: Liberal Racism: 25 Things I Learned After I Wrote About ISIS and White Racism at the Daily Kos [View all]Behind the Aegis
(53,959 posts)116. It isn't just racism that is the problem either.
Liberals, and especially some of those who identify themselves as progressives, have a real issue with discussing their own biases, and, in some cases, bigotry. In that list, the most common one I am seeing now:
10. Class issues and real progressive politics trump any concern about race and racial justice.
BOOM goes the dynamite! Just the other day I brought up this point in a thread. It is a form of minimization of racism and racial issues. There isn't a single AA poster at this site who hasn't experienced racism in his/her life, the degrees may vary, but I'd bet dollars to doughnuts, every single one has had some experience with racism against themselves, not to mention the racism they witness. This point is yet another example of white privilege; it is defining racism and the AA experience from the white perspective! It isn't relegated to white people telling black folk what isn't racist, but also what is racist. Instead of racism being an issue facing AA people, it becomes a WPP (white people's problem) which requires white people to help African-Americans understand what real racism is (or isn't) with little or no input from those who are actually the victims of it.21. Right-wing racists are much more honest, and thus easier to deal with, than liberal racists.
This is also quite true. I have often seen white liberals/progressives tell a joke/write a story and think it is funny because they believe it is satirizing racism, when, in reality, they are using it to "be funny". Here's a clue fellow white people: if you tell a joke/tell a story, and the only people laughing/high-fiving your wit are WHITE people, you probably are saying something racist or, in the very least, saying something racially insensitive. Sure, there will always be some who make things into issues or bigger than they are, but many times, I find it is actually the majority (in this case, white) people making those claim. What does that mean? The "race card" is played more by white people, than it is ever "played" by POC.
Are all white people racists? No, I don't think so. Biased? This is certainly more possible. Prejudiced? Yes, we all are...even those who aren't white. The issue is what you do with those prejudices and biases which will determine if you are a bigot.
Discussions of racism not only require, but demand, that the persons affected be included and heard.
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DonViejo
Feb 2015
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I will love this one forever and BTW ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
NoJusticeNoPeace
Feb 2015
#1
Some duers who are complaining about bringing up America's dark racist past desperately need to
dissentient
Feb 2015
#2
I think the point was for us to stop pretending that Isis is doing the unthinkable.
bravenak
Feb 2015
#13
How about torturing, raping, and murdering innocent human beings in cold blood?
YoungDemCA
Feb 2015
#23
my question should have been directed to bravenak's post. thanks for your assistance, but i
ND-Dem
Feb 2015
#26
And we make a fatal mistake if we believe all of those white Christian Americans are dead and gone.
NoJusticeNoPeace
Feb 2015
#52
There are people complaining this comparison has even been brought up in the
dissentient
Feb 2015
#10
Liberal deflection. One need not tolerate opinions on current events if one knows enough history
lumberjack_jeff
Feb 2015
#3
Are you honestly suggesting that we cannot have two thoughts on the atrocity by ISIS?
salib
Feb 2015
#77
What you say is true, of course, but it is also true that too many people who identify as liberals
tblue37
Feb 2015
#71
If you want to call me a garden variety racist piece of shit have the backbone to say it openly.
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2015
#127
"It will be a cold day in hell before I take instruction from the likes of you."
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2015
#134
a lot of posters at DU aren't liberals; i assume the same is true at kos. so attributing all racist
ND-Dem
Feb 2015
#15
On the contrary, many of the worst offenders are proud, self-described "liberals" or "progressives"
YoungDemCA
Feb 2015
#21
since in general, we don't know who people posting on the internet actually are, or what they
ND-Dem
Feb 2015
#29
"Right-wing racists are much more honest, and thus easier to deal with, than liberal racists"
AgingAmerican
Feb 2015
#39
Girl... I even paged bravenak to this thread before I realized she'd already seen it
Number23
Feb 2015
#96
Oh I know bravenak, here & I are pretty close in age... I stopped biting my tongue on the
giftedgirl77
Feb 2015
#99
Heh... you've only been here since 2013 and you've ALREADY stopped biting your tongue
Number23
Feb 2015
#101
The problem with her statement is the fact that we deny they things we do and did.
bravenak
Feb 2015
#88
I dunno, I think that white people have a culture and history, but it's not monolithic.
Spider Jerusalem
Feb 2015
#118
You could almost get a drinking game started based on the predictable defensive responses. n/t.
Ken Burch
Feb 2015
#119
Nothing could be sweeter than someone leaping up and unintentionally highlighting in the most
Number23
Feb 2015
#100
I find it interesting the number of replies that pick one number or another to get upset with
ScreamingMeemie
Feb 2015
#76
10. “Class issues” and “real progressive politics” trump any concern about race and racial justice.
Number23
Feb 2015
#92
I hesitate to give my opinion because I will be asked why I take this personally or am upset
uppityperson
Feb 2015
#110
"It's wonderful how some of the replies here perfectly illustrate the problem!"
Number23
Feb 2015
#113
Nice. And i would say that the issue is really what you have the POWER to do with those prejudices.
kelliekat44
Feb 2015
#124
This. Is. GREAT!!! Thank you for this totally spot-on analysis. I will be rereading it
DesertDiamond
Feb 2015
#132