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kelliekat44

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124. Nice. And i would say that the issue is really what you have the POWER to do with those prejudices.

Sun Feb 8, 2015, 07:11 AM

Feb 2015

The "powerless" can do little with their prejudices except to have them and maybe make other uncomfortable.
Those with power can and often do use their prejudices to negatively affect the lives of those "others" with really serious, life and livelihood consequences.

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Liberal Racism: 25 Things I Learned After I Wrote About ISIS and White Racism at the Daily Kos [View all] DonViejo Feb 2015 OP

I will love this one forever and BTW ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #1

And so are many of the perpetrators. TygrBright Feb 2015 #67

Agreed Mr Dixon Feb 2015 #151

Some duers who are complaining about bringing up America's dark racist past desperately need to dissentient Feb 2015 #2

those who would burn others alive treestar Feb 2015 #8

We did it recently too. bravenak Feb 2015 #9

Well that sucked, but we still can't let ISIS just do it treestar Feb 2015 #11

I think the point was for us to stop pretending that Isis is doing the unthinkable. bravenak Feb 2015 #13

Oh I agree with that treestar Feb 2015 #16

I see what we did as just as bad. bravenak Feb 2015 #25

what's the unthinkable? ND-Dem Feb 2015 #27

We both know there ain't no such thing. bravenak Feb 2015 #28

Let me unthink about it and check back with you n/t. Ken Burch Feb 2015 #117

Biggest Problem liberalmike27 Feb 2015 #135

that we already did the unthinkable qazplm Feb 2015 #44

Never said we can't speak out. bravenak Feb 2015 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author ND-Dem Feb 2015 #18

How about torturing, raping, and murdering innocent human beings in cold blood? YoungDemCA Feb 2015 #23

my question should have been directed to bravenak's post. thanks for your assistance, but i ND-Dem Feb 2015 #26

And we make a fatal mistake if we believe all of those white Christian Americans are dead and gone. NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #52

Agreed. AverageJoe90 Feb 2015 #142

There are people complaining this comparison has even been brought up in the dissentient Feb 2015 #10

Liberal deflection. One need not tolerate opinions on current events if one knows enough history lumberjack_jeff Feb 2015 #3

Are you honestly suggesting that we cannot have two thoughts on the atrocity by ISIS? salib Feb 2015 #77

I think we are perfectly capable of walking while chewing gum. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2015 #104

Huh? salib Feb 2015 #106

Thanks for posting this. bravenak Feb 2015 #4

k and r and bookmarking niyad Feb 2015 #5

So white liberals are worse than the tea party treestar Feb 2015 #6

Yeah, I was surprised when the author praised "right-wing racists" (nt) Nye Bevan Feb 2015 #12

They are easier to deal with he said. bravenak Feb 2015 #20

Not praising at all. HappyMe Feb 2015 #22

What does deal with mean? treestar Feb 2015 #30

As if a tea party person or any right winger would even consider HappyMe Feb 2015 #31

So it's harder to get white liberals to admit they are racists treestar Feb 2015 #35

The whole point of the article was HappyMe Feb 2015 #37

The article itself is racist AgingAmerican Feb 2015 #49

No, it isn't. HappyMe Feb 2015 #51

Bullshit AgingAmerican Feb 2015 #53

How is this an atttack? HappyMe Feb 2015 #56

+ 1 look no further than DU for examples lunasun Feb 2015 #60

By failing all points of the Bill Moyers test? salin Feb 2015 #73

there ya go qazplm Feb 2015 #46

What you say is true, of course, but it is also true that too many people who identify as liberals tblue37 Feb 2015 #71

Yes, and we should be wiling to correct our mistakes treestar Feb 2015 #90

Who is "we" kemosabe? salib Feb 2015 #83

Didn't he in essence say B? treestar Feb 2015 #91

How did the author say in any way that the answer was B? salib Feb 2015 #94

Here's some good generalizations treestar Feb 2015 #97

Those are vague generalizations salib Feb 2015 #105

Are you trapping me into someplace where you can call me a racist? treestar Feb 2015 #136

Not my intention to set a trap. salib Feb 2015 #137

Off to the greatest Bobbie Jo Feb 2015 #7

#9 The Bill Moyers Rule DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #14

If you want to call me a garden variety racist piece of shit have the backbone to say it openly. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #127

I don't recall asking your permission about this or anything else. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #133

"It will be a cold day in hell before I take instruction from the likes of you." Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #134

a lot of posters at DU aren't liberals; i assume the same is true at kos. so attributing all racist ND-Dem Feb 2015 #15

On the contrary, many of the worst offenders are proud, self-described "liberals" or "progressives" YoungDemCA Feb 2015 #21

since in general, we don't know who people posting on the internet actually are, or what they ND-Dem Feb 2015 #29

K&R. YoungDemCA Feb 2015 #17

. Egnever Feb 2015 #19

That's a bunch of bullshit. Darb Feb 2015 #24

If the shoe fits. valerief Feb 2015 #32

And if the shoe doesn't fit... AgingAmerican Feb 2015 #86

If the shoe doesn't fit, why be angry? kelliekat44 Feb 2015 #122

You mistake disgust for anger AgingAmerican Feb 2015 #139

Nice drivelish bullshit you posted there. HappyMe Feb 2015 #33

Why do you assume this about yourself? salib Feb 2015 #84

I've never met a liberal racist. JaneyVee Feb 2015 #34

According to the article AgingAmerican Feb 2015 #40

How does the article say liberal racists are white? salib Feb 2015 #85

I sure have BrotherIvan Feb 2015 #50

Me neither. In fact, I'd even argue that..... AverageJoe90 Feb 2015 #141

Huge k & r lovemydog Feb 2015 #36

... handmade34 Feb 2015 #38

"Right-wing racists are much more honest, and thus easier to deal with, than liberal racists" AgingAmerican Feb 2015 #39

~ bravenak Feb 2015 #41

More skin color based racist nonsense AgingAmerican Feb 2015 #43

~ bravenak Feb 2015 #45

It's always the one's that cry foul the loudest. giftedgirl77 Feb 2015 #57

Ain't that the truth. bravenak Feb 2015 #61

Girl... I even paged bravenak to this thread before I realized she'd already seen it Number23 Feb 2015 #96

Oh I know bravenak, here & I are pretty close in age... I stopped biting my tongue on the giftedgirl77 Feb 2015 #99

Heh... you've only been here since 2013 and you've ALREADY stopped biting your tongue Number23 Feb 2015 #101

Well TBH I was never very good at holding my tongue giftedgirl77 Feb 2015 #102

I have never lost sight of this truth from childhood: freshwest Feb 2015 #87

The problem with her statement is the fact that we deny they things we do and did. bravenak Feb 2015 #88

I dunno, I think that white people have a culture and history, but it's not monolithic. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2015 #118

You could almost get a drinking game started based on the predictable defensive responses. n/t. Ken Burch Feb 2015 #119

Yep. It happens the same way every time.nt bravenak Feb 2015 #129

You seem incredibly (and I would say unreasonably) HappyMe Feb 2015 #54

Do you know what a 'Strawman fallacy' is? AgingAmerican Feb 2015 #59

I call bullshit on that. HappyMe Feb 2015 #63

I am against blanket attacks AgingAmerican Feb 2015 #66

It shouldn't be hard for you to understand HappyMe Feb 2015 #68

Bull. bravenak Feb 2015 #70

It sucks that some won't fucking listen. HappyMe Feb 2015 #72

The derailment happens every time. bravenak Feb 2015 #75

Hate is hate, period AgingAmerican Feb 2015 #79

I will. bravenak Feb 2015 #81

Symptoms of what? AgingAmerican Feb 2015 #138

Have a heart.nt bravenak Feb 2015 #144

Awwww AgingAmerican Feb 2015 #145

. bravenak Feb 2015 #146

👑 bravenak Feb 2015 #65

I think claiming it's a 'Strawman fallacy' lovemydog Feb 2015 #120

Make no mistake about it. radicalliberal Feb 2015 #42

Highly recommend.n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2015 #48

Love Me, I'm a Liberal G_j Feb 2015 #55

"Ten degrees to the left of center in good times... johnp3907 Feb 2015 #64

black people are very stupid hfojvt Feb 2015 #58

You seem upset. bravenak Feb 2015 #62

Reasons to be unhappy : 14, 15 & 22 . Perhaps a nod to some others listed lunasun Feb 2015 #69

This is absolutely false equivalence and ignores La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2015 #74

Nothing could be sweeter than someone leaping up and unintentionally highlighting in the most Number23 Feb 2015 #100

Oh No, Don't Stop, I'm On My Way To A Grab Bag wellst0nev0ter Feb 2015 #128

I find it interesting the number of replies that pick one number or another to get upset with ScreamingMeemie Feb 2015 #76

Kick and Recommended ismnotwasm Feb 2015 #78

MUST READ malaise Feb 2015 #80

K&R for being absolutely right... giftedgirl77 Feb 2015 #82

Another outstanding post guillaumeb Feb 2015 #89

10. “Class issues” and “real progressive politics” trump any concern about race and racial justice. Number23 Feb 2015 #92

Oh my God, Number 22!!!! Number23 Feb 2015 #93

Happened upthread almost immediately. bravenak Feb 2015 #95

Plain speaking gollygee Feb 2015 #98

Chauncey Devega sheshe2 Feb 2015 #103

An excellent list! betsuni Feb 2015 #107

Is there anyway now that we can be considered not racist? madfloridian Feb 2015 #108

so some people didn't agree with his essay Enrique Feb 2015 #109

How about saying how you specifically disagree lovemydog Feb 2015 #121

I hesitate to give my opinion because I will be asked why I take this personally or am upset uppityperson Feb 2015 #110

This message was self-deleted by its author Marr Feb 2015 #111

Brilliant essay. hunter Feb 2015 #112

"It's wonderful how some of the replies here perfectly illustrate the problem!" Number23 Feb 2015 #113

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt. lovemydog Feb 2015 #114

Lots of good stuff. Not comfortable with generalizations. Adrahil Feb 2015 #115

It isn't just racism that is the problem either. Behind the Aegis Feb 2015 #116

Yes. Opening up discussion lovemydog Feb 2015 #123

Nice. And i would say that the issue is really what you have the POWER to do with those prejudices. kelliekat44 Feb 2015 #124

In regards to number 10 LostOne4Ever Feb 2015 #125

"Liberal Racist"? Sounds like "Republican Re-framing". grahamhgreen Feb 2015 #126

Profound presentation Thespian2 Feb 2015 #130

Chris the host. butterfly77 Feb 2015 #131

This. Is. GREAT!!! Thank you for this totally spot-on analysis. I will be rereading it DesertDiamond Feb 2015 #132

This message was self-deleted by its author AverageJoe90 Feb 2015 #140

K&R marym625 Feb 2015 #143

Garbage. I stopped at number 5. SMC22307 Feb 2015 #147

It's up to the racists on both sides of the spectrum Jamaal510 Feb 2015 #148

Kick JustAnotherGen Feb 2015 #149

Aside from the pearl clutching it is a good conversation! etherealtruth Feb 2015 #150

IMO Mr Dixon Feb 2015 #152