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Why do rightwing billionaires spend hundreds of millions on elections if both parties are the same? [View all] NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 OP

Because dumb, uninformed, hateful voters are easier to buy. nt onehandle Feb 2015 #1

But there is a reason they want the republican in office and not the democrat, right? NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #2

No, because it's PROFITABLE and sustains the illusion of democracy. woo me with science Feb 2015 #57

Excellent response, Thank YOU! haikugal Feb 2015 #133

Both parties are NOT the same, so the premise of your post is flawed (perhaps KingCharlemagne Feb 2015 #3

No, both parties are NOT the same, that is my point. NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #4

Dems are somewhat less corporate tools. Yay... think Feb 2015 #5

Not really glasshouses Feb 2015 #8

Really, so they are the same on choice? voting rights? workers rights? taxation? NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #18

Both bow down to money glasshouses Feb 2015 #20

Is it a pet project if my sister is killed in a back alley abortion, to you? NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #21

I'm sure the billionaires wouldn't lose any sleep over it glasshouses Feb 2015 #27

They both bow down to money because that's the only way they can get elected, or napi21 Feb 2015 #55

They are the same in some regards for the 1% glasshouses Feb 2015 #6

So you agree with Ted Cruz, got it NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #33

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while glasshouses Feb 2015 #46

At least you can admit it...why do you post on a board dedicated to the Democratic Party? NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #48

it's a default setting glasshouses Feb 2015 #67

Oh so you agree that allowing all people to vote doesnt matter? NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #68

I don't think you will ever find a post of mine saying I won't vote for who ever glasshouses Feb 2015 #73

OK, then there is no reason for us to be talking about this, sorry NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #75

No apology needed , it's a discussion board glasshouses Feb 2015 #85

"I'm a socialist" A-Schwarzenegger Feb 2015 #84

why is that funny glasshouses Feb 2015 #87

Funny? I'm happy that you became a socialist overnight A-Schwarzenegger Feb 2015 #89

I did not support Paul in any of my posts glasshouses Feb 2015 #101

Well, you're a socialist now, A-Schwarzenegger Feb 2015 #107

Hillary is a tool glasshouses Feb 2015 #9

And Ted Cruz is saying something today on TV that I am sure you are in complete agreement with NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #31

The party lost me with TPP , they talk a good game but in the end they will fall in line glasshouses Feb 2015 #39

One party will kill women, one wont, do you sit out the election? NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #49

Single issue voting? Ok then Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #90

Got it, you say no, if women die, then so be it, if minorities are stopped from voting, so be it NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #91

Interesting...you are a mind reader too? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #98

Got it, you say no difference, got it NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #99

Tell us all how the parties are different... Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #102

So you believe Hillary may appoint a SC justice who will go against Roe? NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #104

You assume she will or won't? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #108

W O W NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #110

Is that an attempted insult? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #116

OMG OMG OMG you did NOT say that OMG NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #118

OMG OMG OMG reading comprehension issues? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #120

YOu just accused me of tearing apart the dem party or this board, it was an absurd thing to say NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #121

No, it's not absurd. Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #124

Oh, and insult MY ASS, show me the long list of minorities who dont see a difference in the parties NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #119

Minorities? White privilege? OMG WHAT? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #122

Dont you wonder why there are so few people who have to fight for their rights, minorities NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #123

In my camp? I have a camp? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #125

Visably angry? Infuriated you say? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #100

The German Communist Party in the early 1930s made the fatal mistake of welcoming KingCharlemagne Feb 2015 #32

Exactly, but according to MANY here at DU, both parties are the same, weird NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #34

The Turd Way Dems will boil us frogs a little more slowly hifiguy Feb 2015 #92

Lets assume you are right, for the sake of argument NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #93

false assumption Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #103

Blackmail is no way to earn votes. Maedhros Feb 2015 #159

While I mostly agree with you....my gut is telling me things will have to get worse before... yourout Feb 2015 #151

Absolutely. jwirr Feb 2015 #80

Then neither party represents sulphurdunn Feb 2015 #106

Agreed, but the Dems still honor the principles of pluralism and to some extent KingCharlemagne Feb 2015 #130

Absolute bull for corporate Dems. Perhaps the most vicious lie of Third Way politicians, woo me with science Feb 2015 #144

Excellent argument. I will read every link. sulphurdunn Feb 2015 #156

Yes, you are correct. sulphurdunn Feb 2015 #154

For the same reason left wing billionaires do Fuzzy Slipper Feb 2015 #7

Which leftwing billionaires are spending hundreds of millions, and do you think their AGENDA NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #11

There are about 2100 billionaires in the world Fuzzy Slipper Feb 2015 #15

clever insult NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #16

Because the GOP favors them slightly more than the Democrats davidn3600 Feb 2015 #10

Does one care about women having a right to their body and another doesnt? NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #12

You were asking why billionaires spend money on one party more than the other davidn3600 Feb 2015 #40

Lets assume you are right, just for the sake of argument NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #47

DOes one party want to DRASTICALLY reduce taxes paid by the rich and corps and one doesnt? NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #13

Does one want to systematically take away voting rights and workers rights and one doesnt? NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #14

Because the GOP is more bold and open in their contempt of the working class Populist_Prole Feb 2015 #17

Even the most liberal, radical Americans, especially those with life experiences going back to the NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #19

I guess we talked past each other Populist_Prole Feb 2015 #24

Yeah, sorry...I am having a hard time believing people who allege to be liberals are NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #29

Why do you suppose the Kochs funded the DLC? Marr Feb 2015 #22

FIrst I am unaware the Koch's funded the DLC, second, they are not funding the democratic candidate NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #23

Here you go. Marr Feb 2015 #35

Yes Koch money helped set them up. And Al Gore was one of the first chairs... HereSince1628 Feb 2015 #36

So you folks agree with Ted Cruz then? NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #38

What a pitiful response. /nt Marr Feb 2015 #42

NO, in fact it is the PERFECT RESPONSE...jesus christ NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #44

Oh, yeah-- you're going to disengage now because you're just TOO honorable. Marr Feb 2015 #50

BullSHIT, you are willing to act in a way that will kill women in back alleys NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #52

You don't want to talk about right-wing billionaires' political spending anymore, I see. Marr Feb 2015 #53

Sure I do, show me where the Koch's are supporting the democratic party, today, please. NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #56

*sigh*.... fine. I'll kick at your *new* goalpost. Marr Feb 2015 #59

ROFL nt Oilwellian Feb 2015 #114

LOL. woo me with science Feb 2015 #153

LOL Oilwellian Feb 2015 #113

Fail. Such linkage is really for sophomores HereSince1628 Feb 2015 #43

But you both say Obama and the dems are equal to the cons, right? NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #45

NO. I'm providing what YOU ASKED FOR EVIDENCE KOCHS SUPPORTED THE DLC!!!!! HereSince1628 Feb 2015 #51

Yes, I see now you are one of the FEW posters here who isnt defending Ted Cruz and attacking the NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #54

Wow, you ask for evidence...it's given and all you have is ad hominem attacks HereSince1628 Feb 2015 #58

NO, I was admitting that all you did was provide me the evidence and you didnt attack outside of NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #61

I hold out hope for the Democratic Party and intend to help in the fight for its 'soul.' LongTomH Feb 2015 #25

Good, thanks. NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #26

My guess is that they want to guarantee control regardless ladjf Feb 2015 #28

Wall Street does that, and Wall Street is very rightwing, but the Koch and Walton's of the world NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #30

If you wish, we can. You won't like it though. Savannahmann Feb 2015 #37

So women's health are equally in danger no matter which party is in power? NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #41

That has to be the worst comeback I've read in quite some time. Savannahmann Feb 2015 #111

I wonder why minorities are the last people to take your position? NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #112

No, there are apparently many more differences between us. Savannahmann Feb 2015 #135

Show me where I ever said anything within a million miles of this, or assure me you didnt NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #136

I'm not sure I'm on the same page. Savannahmann Feb 2015 #141

To raise the price of admission whatchamacallit Feb 2015 #60

Influence AgingAmerican Feb 2015 #62

Not the Koch Bros, do you think they will spend equally on getting dems in power as cons? NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #65

They are called 'Hedged bet donations' AgingAmerican Feb 2015 #77

This question in the OP is always the weak attempt at a "trump card" woo me with science Feb 2015 #63

Link to the original OP that attempted this Third Way talking point AND others: woo me with science Feb 2015 #76

Because the Birchers/Fascists have taken full control of the gop. The Progressive side of the Dont call me Shirley Feb 2015 #64

But look at all the folks here who are certain there is NO difference between the two NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #66

Cite the post that says there's NO difference between the two parties, please. /nt Marr Feb 2015 #71

All of your responses, all of the no difference responses are here. NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #74

Either quote it or admit you're lying. Marr Feb 2015 #79

The TPP is a gift to billionaires and is very much Phlem Feb 2015 #69

And it is terrible and it is wrong...but there is a difference between the parties NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #70

That's what people say. But when it comes to economics Phlem Feb 2015 #78

Yeah, when another family becomes destitute Oilwellian Feb 2015 #117

Spot on my friend. +1 Phlem Feb 2015 #158

Coke or Pepsi Piasladic Feb 2015 #72

Both wanna take away women's rights to their own bodies and strip voting rights? NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #82

Well said. outside Feb 2015 #115

Apathetic would-be voters are easier to keep away from the polls.....nt AverageJoe90 Feb 2015 #81

by that logic, Obama's whipping for the TPP = Dems are cheaper to buy MisterP Feb 2015 #83

Yikes MFrohike Feb 2015 #86

OK, I wont ask you if you will vote in such a way to stop women from being killed NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #96

Cool MFrohike Feb 2015 #142

What? You lost me..I asked a simple question, dont answer it if you dont want but dont answer it NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #143

I'm not surprised MFrohike Feb 2015 #148

The stucture/means/ways is the same. The ideas are very very different. kydo Feb 2015 #88

expensive maintenance for a large illusion. Adam051188 Feb 2015 #94

You think... sendero Feb 2015 #95

they spend the money on both sides. it's good to maintain the illusion of difference, however. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #97

and don't forget the Kochs creating the DLC MisterP Feb 2015 #105

Now that's something I've heard said often that I've never been able to find authoritative evidence ND-Dem Feb 2015 #132

Billionaires on both sides spend big money on their party benz380 Feb 2015 #109

So it appears your OP is inaccurate Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #126

NO, they will NOT both spend on the Dem prez cand and the repub...unless you have something that NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #127

HA HA moving goal posts again? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #129

another du person just now said this, said it WAY better than i could NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #128

NON-Sequitur... are you NOW switching... Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #131

I think the argument made that both parties are the same is made most often by single issue Agnosticsherbet Feb 2015 #134

ACA was both a give away to health ins co and a HUGE improvement on the old system NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #139

Which of the Terrorist on the SC were put there by Democrats? Agnosticsherbet Feb 2015 #140

More corporate talking points. woo me with science Feb 2015 #145

To think they are the same is inconsistant with reaity and history. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2015 #149

Nonsensical and unresponsive. Just like in the other thread. woo me with science Feb 2015 #150

Nonsensical and illogical. You began by calling it corporate talking points. You call them the same. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2015 #152

What I would like the Koch brothers to answer... 3catwoman3 Feb 2015 #137

That is how much they hate us, how much they want to destroy the environment NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #138

The ones who spend on both sides want to make sure they own whichever party wins. Jamastiene Feb 2015 #146

Did you think that being a moran stopped at a certain income level? Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2015 #147

That's easy - To hedge their bets RiverLover Feb 2015 #155

comedy gold. KG Feb 2015 #157

Koch Brothers money helped elect Bill Clinton, bvar22 Feb 2015 #160

Too ensure a Teddy Rosevelt doesn't get into office One_Life_To_Give Feb 2015 #161

The parties aren't the same. There are vast differences between them... SidDithers Feb 2015 #162

That is what I said, over and over, but you would have thought I was the anti christ NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #163