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102. They are getting warrants to search the cell phones of everyone involved

Sun Feb 8, 2015, 04:20 PM

Feb 2015

The picture on TMZ appears to be fake, as well: note the police report says the white lexus was damaged both in front and behind; it's not here. Besides, who could have snapped a picture from the left of the two vehicles at the moment of the crash? Think about it.

Let's not start using TMZ as some kind of valid source here.

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Bruce Jenner's Escalade ran into a Lexus that had ALREADY hit a Prius in front of it, according to police. [View all] pnwmom Feb 2015 OP

Sounds like it wasn't his fault. Egnever Feb 2015 #1

That's the reason, I'm sure, that he's getting so much attention from paparazzi lately. pnwmom Feb 2015 #2

When you rear end someone, how can it not be your fault? Major Nikon Feb 2015 #17

If lexus hit prius... RichGirl Feb 2015 #20

I don't think there's any dispute that Jenner's vehicle drove the Lexus into oncoming traffic Major Nikon Feb 2015 #24

Courts often spread the responsibility around in a multi-car accident. pnwmom Feb 2015 #120

I was thinking that too. Reminded me of a police manuever Gin Feb 2015 #40

That's true - maybe the Lexus bounced off the prius cwydro Feb 2015 #44

From the pictures Quackers Feb 2015 #124

damn. cwydro Feb 2015 #125

I used too always try to leave sufficient stopping space on the highway, but tblue37 Feb 2015 #77

I was going to say that as well hollysmom Feb 2015 #82

Exactly. The gaps always get quickly filled. n/t pnwmom Feb 2015 #118

Very simply jmowreader Feb 2015 #135

If you rear-end someone who cut in front of you Art_from_Ark Feb 2015 #137

Every time you rear end someone it is your fault. AngryAmish Feb 2015 #21

Correct. It's still Jenner's fault FLPanhandle Feb 2015 #28

Exactly. nt cwydro Feb 2015 #41

He'll probably pay out in a civil lawsuit. MH1 Feb 2015 #43

His insurance company will pay out, maybe several insurance companies. kwassa Feb 2015 #103

"A good lawyer" is not a miracle worker treestar Feb 2015 #54

Except for Johnny Cochran lancer78 Feb 2015 #68

He was good but there was a lot wrong about the way the case was presented treestar Feb 2015 #97

Like the "affluenza" kid? cwydro Feb 2015 #100

Unless they cut you off and slam on the brakes immediately. (ie within 1 second) MillennialDem Feb 2015 #59

+1 well said nt Dreamer Tatum Feb 2015 #65

It's amazing none of the cars spun off that embankment. R B Garr Feb 2015 #3

I remember a while back... RichGirl Feb 2015 #22

Why is this news? Not to me. nt babylonsister Feb 2015 #4

There have been questions raised about whether paparazzi helped cause the accident. pnwmom Feb 2015 #5

It's been proven that the pap weren't chasing him. RichGirl Feb 2015 #26

Proven? trumad Feb 2015 #35

They were following him, but he wasn't trying to outrun them. LisaL Feb 2015 #48

They take pics at long distances...with telephoto lenses. RichGirl Feb 2015 #67

Not "proven." An investigation has barely started and the evidence is pnwmom Feb 2015 #83

There are multiple pictures of Jenner in the seconds before & after the accident. Paparazzi clearly peacebird Feb 2015 #126

I'd want to see a link that says that--there are pictures of him contemporaneous with the accident MADem Feb 2015 #127

If I'm a celebrity and I cause an accident, I'd say there were paps all over. Dreamer Tatum Feb 2015 #66

So why did you commention it? HERVEPA Feb 2015 #42

Is this meant to imply that it's ok to just deliver the Coup de gr�ce to one already injured? jtuck004 Feb 2015 #6

+1 Exhibit A Feb 2015 #7

Why would you think that? I just said it sounded like a common California pile-up pnwmom Feb 2015 #8

she was guilty, too... ProdigalJunkMail Feb 2015 #18

The jury decides the percentages of negligence treestar Feb 2015 #56

Hey! This DU! WE assign negligence, don't you know? kwassa Feb 2015 #99

Because.... RichGirl Feb 2015 #46

That wasn't the question I meant. pnwmom Feb 2015 #86

+1 RandySF Feb 2015 #9

It's called vehicular homicide. alphafemale Feb 2015 #13

It would be vehicular manslaughter padfun Feb 2015 #37

touche' I consider myself properly scolded. nt alphafemale Feb 2015 #57

All killings are homicides treestar Feb 2015 #60

This doesn't fit the definition of vehicular homicide in California. kwassa Feb 2015 #104

Not unless they can prove criminal negligence. pnwmom Feb 2015 #110

FFS, are you serious? nt Logical Feb 2015 #23

Prison? For a traffic accident? AngryAmish Feb 2015 #25

It's not an accident rjsquirrel Feb 2015 #30

All accidents are caused by negligent driving . AngryAmish Feb 2015 #36

That's what negligence is treestar Feb 2015 #61

no, negligence is failure to use reasonable care, resulting in damage or injury to another. kwassa Feb 2015 #101

The fact that someone died doesn't make the act criminal. pnwmom Feb 2015 #111

People go to jail all the time for reckless driving when it causes a death. FLPanhandle Feb 2015 #50

People go to jail if they are drunk, high or going 110 mph. AngryAmish Feb 2015 #52

People have gone to jail for texting and driving then killing someone. FLPanhandle Feb 2015 #70

Was he texting? AngryAmish Feb 2015 #74

Police are getting a warrant Lonusca Feb 2015 #78

They are getting warrants to search the cell phones of everyone involved frazzled Feb 2015 #102

then use these from ... Lonusca Feb 2015 #106

Looks like smoking Lonusca Feb 2015 #107

Right. The photo supports his innocence of a criminal act. Smoking isn't criminal. n/t pnwmom Feb 2015 #115

I don't think there is anything criminal about this Lonusca Feb 2015 #132

tmz has corrected that. Look at their site now. pnwmom Feb 2015 #114

There's no evidence yet that he was texting. What he was holding was a cigarette, pnwmom Feb 2015 #113

Not really. One of my closest friend's daughter was killed by a guy running a red at 70 mph. Coventina Feb 2015 #53

No one on DU gave a damn about Jenner until about 3 weeks ago. alphafemale Feb 2015 #63

I definitely see it too. You're not the only one. nt Dreamer Tatum Feb 2015 #72

I still don't give a damn. n/t Comrade Grumpy Feb 2015 #85

Why is he so special to you? Why are you claiming he drove recklessly without any evidence yet? pnwmom Feb 2015 #112

Jenner passed the sobriety tests and the blood tests. pnwmom Feb 2015 #87

People like him want their pictures to be taken. RichGirl Feb 2015 #33

You don't go to jail for negligence treestar Feb 2015 #55

"�Negligent� Oscar Pistorius still faces lengthy jail term" jtuck004 Feb 2015 #64

You are right. though I doubt it applies to Bruce here treestar Feb 2015 #81

Being distracted isn't the same as deliberately shooting a gun through a closed door. nt pnwmom Feb 2015 #88

Are you serious???!!! AndreaCG Feb 2015 #128

It was unfair to cause the woman's death. Nice of you to forget about her. Think jtuck004 Feb 2015 #129

Jenner didn't kill her on purpose AndreaCG Feb 2015 #130

He got behind the wheel of a car and drove too fast and out of control. It is irrelevant jtuck004 Feb 2015 #131

No, it isn't. It is meant to say that driving too closely is common in CA, as are multi-car pile-ups pnwmom Feb 2015 #84

i don't really get this, i have driven when there was a stopped car in front of me that shouldn't JI7 Feb 2015 #10

That works well as long as people aren't following too closely. In many roads in CA pnwmom Feb 2015 #11

i drive in california in the LA area and there really isn't any excuse JI7 Feb 2015 #12

I've been driving on Los Angeles freeways since 1969 aint_no_life_nowhere Feb 2015 #69

Yeah, I've ridden in cars driven by relatives in Calif. and they Arugula Latte Feb 2015 #90

More than one car length for every 10mph when driving an Escalade and towing, I'd say (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Feb 2015 #15

Yeah, but he won't be charged with vehicular homicide alphafemale Feb 2015 #14

yeah the transgendered have it so great in this country dsc Feb 2015 #32

This has NOTHING to do with him being transgendered. RichGirl Feb 2015 #34

I am not saying he should be given a pass dsc Feb 2015 #45

Jenner will not be charged for this death even though at fault. alphafemale Feb 2015 #62

Except there is no evidence yet that he was criminally at fault. n/t pnwmom Feb 2015 #123

Except the paps wouldn't have been tailing him if not for the recent transgender story. pnwmom Feb 2015 #122

You are right about that. RichGirl Feb 2015 #47

Not "homicide" unless you believe he intended to kill Ilsa Feb 2015 #51

No, an average person wouldn't be charged unless they did something criminal. pnwmom Feb 2015 #116

And Jenner was towing something, meaning he had more mass to control mainer Feb 2015 #29

Should have been watching the road. B Calm Feb 2015 #16

#1 Rule: PAY FREAKIN' ATTENTION. WinkyDink Feb 2015 #19

There is never an excuse for rear ending rjsquirrel Feb 2015 #27

Sure there are, a person pulling in front of you and slamming on thier brakes! Nt Logical Feb 2015 #71

Not usually rjsquirrel Feb 2015 #133

It is a well know insurance scam. You really don't know much about this. nt Logical Feb 2015 #136

Also, no trial for you? Mind made up? How GOP of you! Nt Logical Feb 2015 #73

Lol whut? rjsquirrel Feb 2015 #134

In situations like this, judges and juries divide negligence among the various parties. pnwmom Feb 2015 #89

Getting hit by a car following to closely is my worst nightmare.... a kennedy Feb 2015 #31

When someone tailgates me, I increase my following distance Major Nikon Feb 2015 #75

That can be difficult on some freeways, where other drivers will immediately fill in the "gap." pnwmom Feb 2015 #91

It's no different in Texas and they will cut in regardless Major Nikon Feb 2015 #93

I wouldn't care either except I do think about stopping distances. n/t pnwmom Feb 2015 #94

And usually the people that pass me in a huge hurry.....are the ones a kennedy Feb 2015 #96

One of things I liked about living in Germany is people actually understand lane discipline Major Nikon Feb 2015 #98

Yes - that's been my experience aint_no_life_nowhere Feb 2015 #95

Sounds like two drivers are at fault. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #38

"they plan to look at the cellphone records of all four drivers" MH1 Feb 2015 #39

Each driver is responsible for being able to stop if necessary. RichGirl Feb 2015 #49

There was a light 300 feet away. Yes people stop on highways all the time. bettyellen Feb 2015 #58

And it's not just the media. Many DUers seem to want to single him out pnwmom Feb 2015 #92

Hummers should be seized and destroyed...jesus christ, how enraging is that shit NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #76

I'd hate to get hit by a real heavy car like an SUV or Hummer aint_no_life_nowhere Feb 2015 #79

I LOVE that... Yeah, anyone who drives a gas hog is saying "my comfort is more important than all NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #80

My little Nissan putt-putt car (Sentra) usually allows me to scoot away KingCharlemagne Feb 2015 #105

the 96 was a sweet car. Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #109

Jenner was an INSANE athlete, as in GOOD, i hope the new docu-reality show about his NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #108

He was a great athlete. Imagine, though, the pain he's been living in for all these years. He's 65 years old pnwmom Feb 2015 #117

Have you seen the Amazon series "Transparent", awesome NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #119

No. Thanks for the rec, NoJusticeNoPeace! n/t pnwmom Feb 2015 #121