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Orrex

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252. You wrote...

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 05:50 AM

Feb 2015

That people in this thread were "literally" calling the Target employees "operatives." That was either an error, owing perhaps to a misunderstanding of what "literally" means, or it was a lie. The choice is yours.

This would be a diifferent matter if you'd used less absolutist, less hair-on-fire language, but you deliberately selected a word that declared that you weren't speaking figuratively.

If you can't admit your error or your lie, then you are intellectually dishonest, and nothing further is to be gained from interacting with you.

Understand that I'm not disputing the underlying point (that the underlying story is genuine), and indeed I have explicitly conceded it. Instead, I'm calling you out for your erroneous and/or false accusation.

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teen walks into Target looking for a tie for a job interview. photo goes viral [View all] Liberal_in_LA Feb 2015 OP

What nice people. brer cat Feb 2015 #1

There are some left. Enthusiast Feb 2015 #21

I'm surprised no one here is trashing the kid for wanting to work at Chick-Fil-A VScott Feb 2015 #71

Isn't that special. Kingofalldems Feb 2015 #76

Ugh. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2015 #79

It's an honest living yeoman6987 Feb 2015 #90

+1 NJCher Feb 2015 #139

Hello human kindness... onecaliberal Feb 2015 #2

I hope these are the 99%.... sgtbenobo Feb 2015 #3

It's called solidarity and we could sure use more of it.. mountain grammy Feb 2015 #4

Is this real? Orrex Feb 2015 #5

Just cant leave a tender moment alone, can you? 7962 Feb 2015 #13

We'll see Orrex Feb 2015 #28

most of our lives take place within BubbaFett Feb 2015 #47

Well, it is kind of odd cwydro Feb 2015 #51

Those big stores arent exactly crawling with employees either. 7962 Feb 2015 #74

Well, I do have to say cwydro Feb 2015 #183

yes. and they dont have a lot of free time to help customers with their wardrobes. i could ND-Dem Feb 2015 #190

Others have said it was sporting goods. Its hard to tell 7962 Feb 2015 #201

he already bought the tie KT2000 Feb 2015 #175

why wouldn't the (2) employees help him in menswear where he bought the tie? and where there ND-Dem Feb 2015 #192

The woman looked for someone to help with it. joshcryer Feb 2015 #205

I think we need to hire a private investigator to look into this for DU snooper2 Feb 2015 #256

It was the employees treestar Feb 2015 #77

Employees of the corporation Orrex Feb 2015 #89

Lol. Are you always this negative? yeoman6987 Feb 2015 #92

Are you always so quick to believe in the goodwill of corporations? Orrex Feb 2015 #128

I'd rather be a bit naive then cynical and bitter yeoman6987 Feb 2015 #132

If you're naive and you get fooled, then you'll get screwed. Orrex Feb 2015 #133

I never said you were bitter. yeoman6987 Feb 2015 #142

Directly? Nowhere. But you clearly implied it in post 132 Orrex Feb 2015 #146

Careless yes dishonest know. yeoman6987 Feb 2015 #158

This isn't a story about a corporation or a corporation's goodwill. And you comments about others KittyWampus Feb 2015 #148

Yeah, yeah Orrex Feb 2015 #189

No more and no less than the only possibility is PR and marketing. LanternWaste Feb 2015 #254

But I have from the outset allowed that it might be genuine Orrex Feb 2015 #255

wtf? It isn't pollyanna faith. It's reality. MOST people want to get along and want to be helpful. KittyWampus Feb 2015 #147

You've stated it yourself Orrex Feb 2015 #186

C'mon Orrex ProfessorGAC Feb 2015 #263

a good human being - KT2000 Feb 2015 #176

The shopper who recorded the tender moment made sure to publicize where it happened Demit Feb 2015 #35

Didn't Target have a good reputation for treating employees well? treestar Feb 2015 #80

My point is, this feel-good video is likely a marketing tactic. Demit Feb 2015 #95

It could happen either way treestar Feb 2015 #97

Both things can be true: it was a setup, but the employee wasn't aware of it. Demit Feb 2015 #114

I think it remarkable treestar Feb 2015 #117

It's called goodwill. It's called public relations. It's called promotion. Demit Feb 2015 #127

LOL! So Chic-fil-a were also in on it too, huh? I double whammy of marketing. KittyWampus Feb 2015 #150

I don't see any reason they'd have to be, no. Demit Feb 2015 #225

Target could do that to, to much greater effect treestar Feb 2015 #163

Then you should apply to Target's Marketing Dept to tell them Demit Feb 2015 #179

not a fair response treestar Feb 2015 #238

But Target has done this before. (now edited) Orrex Feb 2015 #240

I got snarky b/c I'm bored with your argumentativeness. Demit Feb 2015 #241

Can you waste some time on me? snooper2 Feb 2015 #257

No, Target is not good to their employees electricray Feb 2015 #120

Ah ha, so other people noticed Android3.14 Feb 2015 #17

The corporation haters show up on schedule. former9thward Feb 2015 #18

Really? The "corporation haters"? Android3.14 Feb 2015 #23

The only projection is your post #17. former9thward Feb 2015 #50

That doesn't even make sense Android3.14 Feb 2015 #55

I cant believe i read that on DU "corporation haters" wow, I really am in the Twilight zone NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #83

Terrorists now? treestar Feb 2015 #113

So wait... is DU supposed to be a corporation loving forum? cui bono Feb 2015 #156

DU is incorporated. former9thward Feb 2015 #169

You claim people can say whatever they want but then you call them "haters". cui bono Feb 2015 #170

You said "corporation loving" former9thward Feb 2015 #171

You do understand that full quotes and context matter, right? cui bono Feb 2015 #173

The poster I replied to said this was a set up by Target. former9thward Feb 2015 #178

No, they did not. They were speculating. Again, full quotes and context matter. cui bono Feb 2015 #185

"It's appearance did have a contrived feel to it" former9thward Feb 2015 #202

DU is supposed to support the working class. joshcryer Feb 2015 #211

Um... okay. Did you reply to the wrong person? n/t cui bono Feb 2015 #243

You seem to think supporting workers is... joshcryer Feb 2015 #244

Why couldn't it have happened? treestar Feb 2015 #81

Nobody is picking on these great employees, who work for a corporation which doesnt give a shit NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #85

How do you know this of that corporation? treestar Feb 2015 #86

You mean like an LLC that owns the local garden nursery store? NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #93

You think LLCs are always small businesses? treestar Feb 2015 #96

Jesus KRIST on a cracker, I was pointing out the entity type ISNT relevant, all big NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #100

No, you have the option of thinking it depends on the company treestar Feb 2015 #105

You'e the one saying the employees are in on some sort of set up treestar Feb 2015 #87

You have me confused with someone else, I say Target doesnt deserve these great employees. NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #91

Kind of an unfair broad brush treestar Feb 2015 #98

You are defending Target NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #101

OMG! treestar Feb 2015 #102

Did you look at what they pay people? NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #104

Minimum wage at the very least treestar Feb 2015 #106

NOT a living wage... NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #111

What's that? treestar Feb 2015 #112

Sure has NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #115

Why single out Target? treestar Feb 2015 #116

OH, I am NOT singling them out, they are simply part of this story, why are you defending NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #118

Where did I defend stock portfolios of mostly rich people? treestar Feb 2015 #161

Your entire position is a defense of the Oligarch's and Wall Street system that is killing America NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #162

OMG treestar Feb 2015 #166

But you instantly came out in defense of the corporation and made it a point to argue with those NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #167

Of course they don't. joshcryer Feb 2015 #212

Not until we the people revolt and say we arent willing to work two jobs, full time NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #233

They can learn to weld and make badass dragon smokers snooper2 Feb 2015 #258

Not following Android3.14 Feb 2015 #99

Everyone to DU is a corporatist. Well, except for Warren, Bernie and Greenwald. Drunken Irishman Feb 2015 #153

you corporatist apologist you! treestar Feb 2015 #157

LMAO! nt Jamaal510 Feb 2015 #197

i wondered that too. because why are they in the bike/toy section? and why does that suit ND-Dem Feb 2015 #20

Yeah, why can't all job seekers afford a tailor? NuclearDem Feb 2015 #24

No kidding. HappyMe Feb 2015 #25

Or Target may be trying to generate positive sentiment. Orrex Feb 2015 #27

Until there is proof, I'm still going HappyMe Feb 2015 #31

I'm not disputing the fact that there are good people out there Orrex Feb 2015 #33

So go find out for us. yeoman6987 Feb 2015 #94

Here's a touching Maryland story for you yeoman. wolfie001 Feb 2015 #154

Very touching indeed. yeoman6987 Feb 2015 #160

That could have happened anywhere for any number of reasons treestar Feb 2015 #168

If the store were Unionized, the asshole store manager.... wolfie001 Feb 2015 #182

So the answer is found in the toy/bike section? Orrex Feb 2015 #26

Yeah, because all the people employed at those HappyMe Feb 2015 #32

Is that your opinion? Because it sure as hell ain't mine. Orrex Feb 2015 #34

Levis, Costco, Starbucks, HappyMe Feb 2015 #36

Yes. Yes I would. Orrex Feb 2015 #38

I wouldn't exactly describe myself that way, HappyMe Feb 2015 #39

I would describe you as too eager to believe a feel-good tale Orrex Feb 2015 #41

I would describe you as too cynical HappyMe Feb 2015 #44

But consider: Orrex Feb 2015 #48

Oh ffs! HappyMe Feb 2015 #53

Both of you! Go to the corner! nt Lucky Luciano Feb 2015 #60

lol! HappyMe Feb 2015 #61

Am I? Then why is the story remarkable, in your view? Orrex Feb 2015 #69

This line of argument is unfair to the other poster treestar Feb 2015 #109

Equally, it should be pointed out when corporations do shitty things. Orrex Feb 2015 #123

Clever marketing ploy I suppose treestar Feb 2015 #164

They are union busters, and they pay a shitty wage Orrex Feb 2015 #196

Name any company that pays more than the market wage treestar Feb 2015 #234

You're arguing that they don't suck any worse than other companies that suck. Orrex Feb 2015 #239

+100 ND-Dem Feb 2015 #64

It's all relative as I could describe you as too eager to believe treestar Feb 2015 #108

My belief is consistent with Target's recent behavior Orrex Feb 2015 #121

"good liberal corporations" = oxymoron, i think. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #63

It portrays one employee in one store in a positive light. WillowTree Feb 2015 #54

Actually, it requires very little effort. Orrex Feb 2015 #66

It portrays those employees in a positive light treestar Feb 2015 #107

As I said upthread, this is a known method of marketing. Demit Feb 2015 #119

The First Amendment means they will get away with it treestar Feb 2015 #165

????? Demit Feb 2015 #174

They are representatives of the corporation Orrex Feb 2015 #122

Maybe the fellow employee who knew how to knot a tie just happened to be in that section. KittyWampus Feb 2015 #151

How so? Because I suggest that a company might do as it has recently done before? Orrex Feb 2015 #193

No Orrex YOU ARE THE ONE CLAIMING IT'S A CONSPIRACY KittyWampus Feb 2015 #203

SHOUTY-CAPS make you no more impressive or convincing Orrex Feb 2015 #213

you can get a suit that fits at goodwill. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #57

Assumptions after assumptions after assumptions. NuclearDem Feb 2015 #58

kind of like the assumptions you made in order to attack me. reread the post. here it is: ND-Dem Feb 2015 #62

Sonofabithch some of these replies are ridiculous. 7962 Feb 2015 #82

Why? Because some of us worked in advertising. Demit Feb 2015 #129

If you worked in advertising, EVERYTHING is bull. This isnt an ad. 7962 Feb 2015 #130

No, that's wrong. Not everything is bull. Demit Feb 2015 #144

How would you pull this off? joshcryer Feb 2015 #210

You hold a pep rally with employees... Demit Feb 2015 #226

That sounds awfully... like everyday... life. joshcryer Feb 2015 #246

So now you see how it would be orchestrated. Demit Feb 2015 #264

Clueless ......> ."why does that suit appear 3 sizes too big?" lunasun Feb 2015 #149

yes, poor people always wear sad sack charlie chaplin suits to job interviews. speaking of ND-Dem Feb 2015 #184

Sometimes the available thrift stores do not have someone's exact size when needed . He was wise lunasun Feb 2015 #187

I wonder what kind of job a person who's too poor to have anything but an oversized suit is ND-Dem Feb 2015 #188

Yes I am standing by my clueless statement Eom lunasun Feb 2015 #198

you do that. but i notice you don't answer the question. suit interviews are rare for most ND-Dem Feb 2015 #199

Nope my friend's wife just got edged out of a min wage job yes min wage job by a young man in a suit lunasun Feb 2015 #230

I've worked at a nursing home and know a lot of people who work at nursing homes. They're mostly ND-Dem Feb 2015 #232

the young man purchased the tie KT2000 Feb 2015 #177

OMG they're just so devious and manipulative! IronLionZion Feb 2015 #37

You would rather be blindly credulous than cautiously skeptical Orrex Feb 2015 #40

You're not paranoid IronLionZion Feb 2015 #134

Corporations are trying to make a buck from me Orrex Feb 2015 #135

I truly cannot even begin to describe how much I care IronLionZion Feb 2015 #136

Then that should have been your first reply Orrex Feb 2015 #137

you would rather come off sounding like a conspiracy theorist? That isn't an insult KittyWampus Feb 2015 #152

I am erring on the side of recently established precedent Orrex Feb 2015 #191

since I don't claim to know one way or the other I won't be wrong HOWEVER KittyWampus Feb 2015 #195

That's pretty weak Orrex Feb 2015 #200

will you do an OP? snooper2 Feb 2015 #259

our mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters BubbaFett Feb 2015 #49

If it turns out that I am correct, what will be your response? Orrex Feb 2015 #68

And if you're wrong? An apology OP? 7962 Feb 2015 #131

You didn't answer my question. Orrex Feb 2015 #138

Sure! I have no trouble calling out the bastards if its a scam. 7962 Feb 2015 #181

It's a sideline benefit of BubbaFett Feb 2015 #229

It's real, it happens a lot in retail. Agschmid Feb 2015 #46

How do you know that it's real? Orrex Feb 2015 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author Agschmid Feb 2015 #75

Do you post it on Facebook in hope of creating a viral feel-good campaign for your employer? Orrex Feb 2015 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author Agschmid Feb 2015 #103

I'm cynical too. So far it's served me well. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2015 #65

And I thought I was Chief Cynic. WinkyDink Feb 2015 #110

There's plenty of room at the top Orrex Feb 2015 #124

Heh. Now this story I believe (the photo helps). But those "This was written on my receipt!" ones? WinkyDink Feb 2015 #219

That's a good comparison Orrex Feb 2015 #220

You're getting a lot of shit for a reasonable question. Marr Feb 2015 #125

Thank you. Orrex Feb 2015 #126

I can't believe the flack you are taking for at least questioning this. cui bono Feb 2015 #159

+1 I don't know if these people are really, really attached to their world views, or if they're ND-Dem Feb 2015 #194

There is nothing "critical" believing 4 people are in on a conspiracy. joshcryer Feb 2015 #206

Truly Orrex Feb 2015 #215

Yes. joshcryer Feb 2015 #209

We shall see Orrex Feb 2015 #214

No doubt people are trying to prove that. joshcryer Feb 2015 #217

K&R eom MohRokTah Feb 2015 #6

That is sweet. cwydro Feb 2015 #7

They might have been the only shoes he had. And he might have borrowed the suit. ladyVet Feb 2015 #22

That Made Me Cry... WillyT Feb 2015 #8

Me too! I thought it was... cyberswede Feb 2015 #12

K&R! Omaha Steve Feb 2015 #9

That's what we need to see more of. People treating people as people. Kablooie Feb 2015 #10

Just read the posts above yours; you'll find the conspiracy theorists questioning this story 7962 Feb 2015 #84

That just made me smile. Beautiful. sheshe2 Feb 2015 #11

Thanks for posting a good one!! 7962 Feb 2015 #14

I wonder what a post like this is worth Android3.14 Feb 2015 #15

This shows that oppressed, underpaid workers are nice, not that the big tblue37 Feb 2015 #43

I applaud your naivete Android3.14 Feb 2015 #52

I found the whole thing very offensive. hughee99 Feb 2015 #72

I suppose, if cornflake pissing were your intention Android3.14 Feb 2015 #73

Human spirit at its best AllyCat Feb 2015 #16

++++ Good to see++++ bobGandolf Feb 2015 #19

It's a sad day when something as simple and humanitarian as this BlueCaliDem Feb 2015 #29

Waht a wonderful story to read so early in the day madokie Feb 2015 #30

Thanks for posting this. It made my day! KnR. nt tblue37 Feb 2015 #42

Just made my day! vankuria Feb 2015 #45

Great photo and story. Thanks for posting mike dub Feb 2015 #56

An old TV commercial popped into my head. "Come back to Jamaica." valerief Feb 2015 #59

Kind'a sucks that it's nearly impossible to find a clip on tie nowadays. VScott Feb 2015 #70

I swear half of DU will never be HAPPY with anything. Unbelievable posts on this OP 7962 Feb 2015 #78

First, it's not rational to "be happy" about EVERYTHING, alp227 Feb 2015 #141

Eyeroll. That is a great story and leave it at that!! yeoman6987 Feb 2015 #143

No I don't. (What's up with DU making hasty speculations in replies?) alp227 Feb 2015 #155

I never said you should be happy about everything, nor should you be cynical about everything 7962 Feb 2015 #180

It's not rational to be miserable and constantly complaining about everything, either. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #204

Yes, corporations will use stories like this. joshcryer Feb 2015 #208

Given your love of truth, I know that you'll be eager to recant Orrex Feb 2015 #228

Obvious supposition claim. joshcryer Feb 2015 #245

And you lack the integrity to admit when you're wrong. Orrex Feb 2015 #247

There was no error. joshcryer Feb 2015 #248

You wrote... Orrex Feb 2015 #252

This thread is a fucking trainwreck. joshcryer Feb 2015 #207

Very well said! 7962 Feb 2015 #218

You are right about the folks on the ground doing the retail grunt work. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #253

Very sweet. Arugula Latte Feb 2015 #140

:) BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2015 #145

if everyone did one simple act of kindness... Yavin4 Feb 2015 #172

Update on the CNN story (Fri night) says he was to be invited back for a second interview mnhtnbb Feb 2015 #216

When the young man speaks up, all the haters will eat crow. joshcryer Feb 2015 #221

It's not "conspiracy bullshit" and it's not "idiocy." It's healthy skepticism. Orrex Feb 2015 #222

It appears that this has been proven genuine, and I am happy to have been incorrect. Orrex Feb 2015 #223

LOL snooper2 Feb 2015 #260

Posting an OP to admit error strikes me as a plea for attention, like a GBCW post. Orrex Feb 2015 #261

Nah I'm done and off to other things now :) snooper2 Feb 2015 #262

great. thx for the update Liberal_in_LA Feb 2015 #235

It's particularly nice to see the kindness of strangers crossing racial lines in this mnhtnbb Feb 2015 #224

I saw 225 replies and thought... Inkfreak Feb 2015 #227

lol. that's how it is on DU Liberal_in_LA Feb 2015 #236

It appears that this has been proven genuine, and I am happy to have been incorrect. Orrex Feb 2015 #231

.. Liberal_in_LA Feb 2015 #237

I'm sure the Chick-Fil-A manager will hire him on the merits. joshcryer Feb 2015 #250

Looks like a dad getting his son ready for the prom or a job interview. Rex Feb 2015 #242

Kick & recommended. William769 Feb 2015 #249

I applaud the thought no matter the circumstance. gordianot Feb 2015 #251

this thread is proof positive, DU'ers will argue/debate ANYTHING nt steve2470 Feb 2015 #265

Proof DUers will hate, despise, trash, or denigrate anything. joshcryer Feb 2015 #266