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freshwest

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49. Disagree with one point: 'any American was surprised by the guerilla tactics used by, etc.'
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 07:08 PM
Feb 2015

That's what special forces do, I suspect. While never having an interest in joining the military, but having worked in civilan life with some who served in wars as scouts, Americans really do know about guerilla warfare. But they usually don't talk in public about what they did.

Nor am I applauding the wars they served in. I agree with the take on being in another person's country. Unless the people are ready to get rid of their leader as some were with Saddam, or their government as in some other places, or the Kurds and Shia in Iraq, guerilla actions by us won't work. There must be an alliance somehow.

Conversely, some have been willing to work with special ops to keep their leader or government in place, as some were in Vietnam.

Whether they work with or fight forces from the USA is limited by native patriotism. At this point in time, we have Americans on the right who act like they want to destroy the government so much they say they'd welcome an invasion by whoever they think will give them what they want. Just as in every nation.

And you made a very good analysis.

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Disagree with one point: 'any American was surprised by the guerilla tactics used by, etc.' freshwest Feb 2015 #49
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