Vaccination is a process with COLLECTIVE benefits.

[DanTex]

75. Again, I don't think you realize the absurdity of what you are saying.

If you truly think that the risk associated with the MMR vaccine is zero -- that there have been zero deaths caused by MMR --then, well, that's pretty much the kind of thinking I've come to expect from you.

If not, I'm anxiously awaiting your assessment of the risks of the MMR vaccine, and your argument as to why your estimate is better than mine, and why it's lower than the million-to-one odds that the MMR vaccine will actually end up saving your life. If not we'll stick with my numbers. We've already been over the potential for errors in the dataset, I understand that completely, the real question is how to get a better estimate.

I really don't get why you are so scared to try to come up with an estimate yourself.

Unless, of course, you don't think assessing the risk is important in an individual's decision whether or not to take it. This seems to be what you honestly believe. In which case, well, I'm sure glad you're not in a position to give public health advice.

Anyway, interesting that the people most adamant about how safe MMR is are the least willing to even attempt to assess the risks. Almost like it's a kind of religious belief.