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61. Was she a Goldwater Girl like Hillary? n/t

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Tue Feb 10, 2015, 04:18 PM

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David Axelrod: Obama Was 'Bullshitting' Opposition To Gay Marriage In 2008 [View all] kpete Feb 2015 OP

Well that explains Obama inviting Rick Warren to speak at his inauguration. GeorgeGist Feb 2015 #1

Hillary outside Feb 2015 #38

I don't think they lied. They both see that they have to go with the times. cui bono Feb 2015 #51

David Axelrod outside Feb 2015 #58

If he really was lying then he purposely aided in the oppression. cui bono Feb 2015 #62

This is going to cause some cognitive dissonance. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #2

For the record, I've never said that a bout Warren. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #4

I'm convinced she isn't currently running. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #5

Since you are not a Democrat, whether or not she runs is meaningless to you. eom MohRokTah Feb 2015 #6

Hardly. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #8

Well, Elizabeth Warren has emphatically removed herelf from the running. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #9

Oh, and thanks for making this thread about Warren. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #10

Me? I made a single comment, you replied, etc. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #12

Your single comment made the thread about Warren. eom MohRokTah Feb 2015 #13

If it bothers you that much, we can both self-delete the entire set of comments. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #14

Nah, I'll just keep responding to you. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #15

The problem for warren is she actually was a republican JI7 Feb 2015 #17

Was she a Goldwater Girl like Hillary? n/t nichomachus Feb 2015 #61

no. she was about 30 years older JI7 Feb 2015 #66

Jesus. Who's floating that argument about Warren? DirkGently Feb 2015 #37

I thought it was going to cause a problem for people who "believed him" snooper2 Feb 2015 #46

To choose some incredibly arbitrary number Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #49

Missed it by a few minutes MohRokTah Feb 2015 #3

So, basically, nothing that he says is to be taken seriously. djean111 Feb 2015 #7

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Because that should be the takeaway from an article about gay rights? msanthrope Feb 2015 #16

Bullshitting about his stance on marriage equality is why we are where we are now on the issue. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #18

And he deftly removed a wedge issue for the MCCain/Palin camp to use. nt msanthrope Feb 2015 #19

And he quietly worked behind the scenes to get us where we are today. eom MohRokTah Feb 2015 #20

Quietly? He stirred dustclouds of swirling shit at the Pentagon...nt. msanthrope Feb 2015 #22

Well, that was after he announced how he had "evolved" on the issue. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #23

Well we can agree on that. randys1 Feb 2015 #57

yes. anyone who saw what he said before running for president JI7 Feb 2015 #21

More like: "Nothing he says should be taken at face value" Act_of_Reparation Feb 2015 #27

This is why I never watch his speeches. Deeds not words. Every time. djean111 Feb 2015 #39

I would hope our president's motivations are more practical than my admiration. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2015 #59

Exactly.... ann--- Feb 2015 #32

Sure you did. eom BlueCaliDem Feb 2015 #35

oh you poor thing wendylaroux Feb 2015 #45

Cool story, bro. eom MohRokTah Feb 2015 #55

Yeah, I knew this. I had some exposure to Obama's ways prior to his candidacy so I knew to listen to Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #24

Subtelty, negotiation skills, quietly manipulating the political system.... Sheepshank Feb 2015 #36

Yep, those folks are busy congratulating themselves on trite and pedestrian attempts at humor like stevenleser Feb 2015 #65

And halfway through his second term, marriage equality is MineralMan Feb 2015 #25

I think this is an example of how Barack Obama is probably the most skilled politician since FDR. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #28

That could be. It could also be that the time when this country MineralMan Feb 2015 #30

I lost a dear friend, Greg, recently. AfAm man my age who LOVED that we finally had a Black Prez randys1 Feb 2015 #64

No surprise. I've thought that all along. marmar Feb 2015 #26

so, it was like we said bigtree Feb 2015 #29

He did what needed to be done to persuade Democrats who were opposed to equality to favor it. Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #41

well, there is that bigtree Feb 2015 #50

Better that he was a liar than a bigot. Nye Bevan Feb 2015 #31

No, it isn't ann--- Feb 2015 #33

" Wait till the other shoes drop about this guy." PragmaticLiberal Feb 2015 #42

Either the "Mooslim" thing or the "birth certificate" thing. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #56

I don't think thats what ann meant. PragmaticLiberal Feb 2015 #63

What???!! wendylaroux Feb 2015 #47

I have never had any doubt that President Obama was pro-equal rights in all ways, even gay marriage. BlueCaliDem Feb 2015 #34

Opposing gay marriage was ALWAYS the wrong thing to do, no matter the reason. alarimer Feb 2015 #40

Politicians lie!!???!! Next we'll be told that ducks quack. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #43

yeah, right. KG Feb 2015 #44

Like that wasn't already obvious. Vattel Feb 2015 #48

In other words, he purposely aided in the oppression of gays for personal political gain. cui bono Feb 2015 #52

No, he's actually pretty good at bullshitting. TwilightGardener Feb 2015 #53

Not buying it. NCTraveler Feb 2015 #54

I think he's selling himself short nichomachus Feb 2015 #60

Not surprising at all, Obama is the consummate politician. tritsofme Feb 2015 #67