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54. LOVE IT!!! Adolf Hitler quotes are simply stunning in their relevance. Creepy. Horrifying. But
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 04:41 PM
Feb 2015

STUNNING. Reminds me of that bit in the first Harry Potter movie - John Hurt as Mr. Ollivander, the wand shop proprietor. Produced a wand for Harry to examine, because Harry needed one for his first year at Hogwarts. The wand had a connection to the evil Lord Voldemort. And Mr. Ollivander said something about how the Dark Lord was capable of doing "great things. Terrible. But great things." ("Great" as in large and tremendously overpowering, like a "great earthquake" of 8 or more on the scale, not necessarily "great" as in wonderful.) My favorite quote attributed to Hitler was "what luck for the leaders that men do not think." That one stopped me cold.

I told my kids about it. My daughter was in 4th grade at the time. At one point everyone in her class was assigned to come up with a memorable quote. She chose THAT one! Everyone presented their quote, in turn, and the rest of the class was charged with guessing who said it. Nobody got hers. When she told them, she later told me, everybody gasped.

It's one of my favorite quotes - EVER. That monster sure knew how to manipulate people. That quote should be on the Pox Noise coat of arms, if they have one.

And I'm torn over your question, H2O Man. Not sure how to answer. I think if at least some of them DIDN'T believe everything they said and "reported," they might have a problem getting up and going into work there every morning. Unless they're very skilled at putting the ol' blinders on and collecting that paycheck every other week. That's what makes me wonder why the hell Shepard Smith is still working there. How can he countenance that, with the grip on reality that he often seems to have (or at least display)?

Then again, I've been in the network news world and people are able to separate it. Some of the stuff you cover - you kinda have to. Clinton critics obsessing on the whole Monica mess used to refer to it as "situational ethics." Like being a "Cafeteria Catholic" I suppose (guilty as charged, here, btw!) - you pick and choose what you can live with and what you can and can't stomach. Many of 'em, I'd suspect, are just in it for the money, because - as I have heard many of them confess "hey, I've got kids in private school..." or "a wife/family to support" or "alimony/house payments" or some such. Hell, I used to work with a guy who - we teased - was working on his fourth set of alimony payments, due to his having to move cross-country for jobs and uproot more than one wife, and eventually those wives got tired of being uprooted again and again to accommodate his changing job locations.

I also wonder if a modified form of the Stockholm Syndrome starts to set in with people like those who work at Pox Noise. Most media buildings have the audio of whatever programming is on at any given moment - piped in everywhere. It's in the lobby, the receptionist's entrance, the hallways, even the bathrooms. I worked at one big station where the programming was coming out of the guard shack by the security gate to the parking lot. When you're surrounded by that, and inundated by that, and literally steeped in that shit all day, no matter WHERE you go in the building, I'll bet it starts to have an impact. You steep in it til it almost literally turns you into a teabagger. And if one doesn't have strong convictions or isn't paying attention, pretty soon it's likely that they will start accepting and internalizing what they're exposed to, nonstop, ALL THE OL' LIVE-LONG DAY. It can easily begin to override and drown out any possibility of critical thinking. It can easily start to modify one's thinking.

Consider - how many people in this country are lock-step Pox-bots or limbots - they take on these ideas and embrace them fully and become one with them. They do because that's all they hear. That's all they see. That's all they're exposed to. If all you listen to all day is limbaugh, where is the rebuttal? Where is the push-back? Where is the other side of the argument or the issue or whatever? Answer: NOWHERE. No such thing. No opposing views need apply. So what can you expect them to think, with that carefully-programmed and targeted avalanche of misinformation, distortion, and outright lies? They never hear anything other than this shit. So they can't be expected to know or believe anything else. Garbage in, garbage out.

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YES. GeorgeGist Feb 2015 #1
It does not matter what matters is that fox viewers believe what they are spewing and trust them. ChosenUnWisely Feb 2015 #2
Good point. H2O Man Feb 2015 #16
There are both, idiot spokes-holes who believe their BS, and there are some who are just selling NightWatcher Feb 2015 #3
Right. H2O Man Feb 2015 #17
Do Republicans actually believe the things they say? nt antigop Feb 2015 #4
Fair question. H2O Man Feb 2015 #18
they mercuryblues Feb 2015 #5
Right. H2O Man Feb 2015 #32
My knowledge of theFox universe is slight, but Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #6
Okay, now you've done it! H2O Man Feb 2015 #33
I have to admit I have never truly watched FOX except for the time it took Frustratedlady Feb 2015 #7
I really like your H2O Man Feb 2015 #34
Fox employees are plastic people living in their own plastic world notadmblnd Feb 2015 #8
Great answer! H2O Man Feb 2015 #35
I don't watch FoxNews, nor do most Americans. Personally I can count on DU to be right wing and Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #9
There does seem to H2O Man Feb 2015 #38
Some do, some don't. jeff47 Feb 2015 #10
I agree with you on H2O Man Feb 2015 #39
Some are idiots, some are assholes, some JEB Feb 2015 #11
You nailed it! H2O Man Feb 2015 #40
my answer is different today than it would have been 15 years ago. salin Feb 2015 #12
Bravo. You got it! BlueJazz Feb 2015 #14
thanks. salin Feb 2015 #19
Very impressive! H2O Man Feb 2015 #41
I appreciate your question, and response salin Feb 2015 #55
I know that I, H2O Man Feb 2015 #56
I think some of them genuinely believe the lies and propaganda they spew malaise Feb 2015 #13
Right! H2O Man Feb 2015 #42
I don't expect them to change in my lifetime malaise Feb 2015 #45
Yep! H2O Man Feb 2015 #47
Yes. And, P.T. Barnum commented on the reason why. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #15
Short and sweet! H2O Man Feb 2015 #43
They have a unified slant and their presentation and body language etc are all Jefferson23 Feb 2015 #20
Good call. H2O Man Feb 2015 #44
Yep. Trained is a good word for it. lol Jefferson23 Feb 2015 #50
I think some believe their cause is a righteous one and the lies are warranted herding cats Feb 2015 #21
Solid answer. H2O Man Feb 2015 #49
Words coming out of their mouths doesn't mean they know what they are saying. Octafish Feb 2015 #22
Great point regarding H2O Man Feb 2015 #51
LOVE IT!!! Adolf Hitler quotes are simply stunning in their relevance. Creepy. Horrifying. But calimary Feb 2015 #54
Great answer! H2O Man Feb 2015 #59
Yes, they do, imo. Jamastiene Feb 2015 #23
Yep. H2O Man Feb 2015 #57
Seems unlikely. Paid shills, IMHO. Scuba Feb 2015 #24
Some definitely are. H2O Man Feb 2015 #58
I don't know. LWolf Feb 2015 #25
Very good! H2O Man Feb 2015 #60
No, whores tell Johns what they want to hear Tom Ripley Feb 2015 #26
Good answer! H2O Man Feb 2015 #61
Most don't believe in anything other than doing what is necessary to collect their paycheck. KittyWampus Feb 2015 #27
Wow! H2O Man Feb 2015 #62
Like you said: "I watch Fox News less than a half-hour per year" panader0 Feb 2015 #28
Right! H2O Man Feb 2015 #64
Yes. I think they believe the things they say. I work the polls each election in my corner of the livetohike Feb 2015 #29
My aunt lives H2O Man Feb 2015 #65
On Air News "Personalities"..... Laxman Feb 2015 #30
Outstanding. H2O Man Feb 2015 #66
It depends on the issue. el_bryanto Feb 2015 #31
yes Takket Feb 2015 #36
Nope, I saw Michael Savage debate Al Franken once, and he pretty much admitted that it's a persona.. bettyellen Feb 2015 #37
Having worked with Neil Boortz and other Wingnut Mouthpieces Tsiyu Feb 2015 #46
no. They say what they need to for ratings and job security Liberal_in_LA Feb 2015 #48
Faux Newz is a forum of Millionaire paid Talking Heads, telling the Billionaire's story, Only, bobalew Feb 2015 #52
I think that whether or not they are true believers is irrelevant Agnosticsherbet Feb 2015 #53
I'm sure some do. bigwillq Feb 2015 #63
Some of them are true believers, but I think most don't... Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #67
I think they believe in their mission Tom Rinaldo Feb 2015 #68
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