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elfin

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38. It is going to get REALLY nasty - especially if there are Epstein tapes

Wed Feb 11, 2015, 11:13 AM

Feb 2015

of Bubba with a teen-ager.

I love so many things about Hillary and Bill, but the corporatism and his sleaze are hard to gloss over.

I bet this Epstein issue has them really scrambling to find what else is out there. Phone records are one thing, but if there is a tape....

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"Hilarious" Hillary - rethugs can't wait. [View all] RiverLover Feb 2015 OP

Clinton bagage will decimate the Democratic ticket Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #1

While I really want another candidate to arise el_bryanto Feb 2015 #2

The fact she's been "a fact of life" means what? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #4

I also don't understand the 'already vetted' thing. HappyMe Feb 2015 #7

And is she "vetted" for this 2nd movie coming out next year? RiverLover Feb 2015 #9

Any Hillary movie (whether for or against) HappyMe Feb 2015 #25

Probably won't have to waste money on it - if they are putting it out as propaganda it will be on TV jwirr Feb 2015 #49

Meh. HappyMe Feb 2015 #52

Agreed. I think she is making a big mistake. jwirr Feb 2015 #56

She has waaay too much baggage. HappyMe Feb 2015 #58

And the Rs are not going to stop at her. Bill, Chelsea, Chelsea's husband etc. jwirr Feb 2015 #59

No they won't. HappyMe Feb 2015 #61

I just thought of something. Maybe Dems are letting them, Right Wingers, think Hillary is sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #64

Great point Sabrina. RiverLover Feb 2015 #71

Many tea partiers hate banksters just as much as "extreme left" Democrats do... cascadiance Feb 2015 #78

She can't win aspirant Feb 2015 #83

I mean that she's been vetted; it means that people have already made up their minds about her el_bryanto Feb 2015 #10

Her political career reminds me of Nixon who beat us worse than we beat him until he beat himself. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #12

That's a pretty apt comparison, I'd say. nt el_bryanto Feb 2015 #18

Oh, ok ;~) Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #14

If Hillary Kissinger Clinton is nominated Oilwellian Feb 2015 #17

Sure as shit RiverLover Feb 2015 #20

Res ipsa loquitur DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #29

Their history classes are not over yet..... TheNutcracker Feb 2015 #35

Do you drink? Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #79

Very well said. HappyMe Feb 2015 #26

Fact of life and vetted? Doesn't that fit Jeb and Chrispy? They have been "vetted" and cleared over Autumn Feb 2015 #48

I wont' vote for her in the primary el_bryanto Feb 2015 #51

Or Scott Walker-- Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #80

She hasn't been vetted-- she's been groomed. Marr Feb 2015 #50

They said our presidential candidate... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #3

That's actually a very good point. RiverLover Feb 2015 #5

That's not offhshore accounts, nor is it not playing by the rules for everyone else! TheNutcracker Feb 2015 #36

I assure you if you do a blind test DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #41

Republican hatred of her is one of her redeeming qualities. pampango Feb 2015 #6

"I almost want to give republicans the opponent they say they want." DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #8

That is confusing Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #11

Why do you ignore the fact DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #16

I think we "beat them like a drum" as you say, because we were coming off 8 Autumn Feb 2015 #54

"Why would you want to give them such an effective reason for right-wingers to vote AGAINST dems" pampango Feb 2015 #19

Keep trying... SidDithers Feb 2015 #13

Good one!!!!11!11!11 Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #15

Welcome to DU... SidDithers Feb 2015 #30

Yep. Bobbie Jo Feb 2015 #21

Do you notice the Republicans argue that both Hillary and Barack are disciples of Saul Alinsky? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #22

Why are you repeating what republicans "are saying"? Renew Deal Feb 2015 #23

We are told here what the rethugs are saying about Elizabeth Warren RiverLover Feb 2015 #24

They will smear any Democratic candidate DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #27

+1 treestar Feb 2015 #34

We are? Renew Deal Feb 2015 #28

(Nearly) all politicians are trimmers DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #31

Obama was a Marxist Muslim married to a woman who hates America. NCTraveler Feb 2015 #32

Let's go back to 2000... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #40

Warren is going to be embraced by Republicans. NCTraveler Feb 2015 #42

(Both) sides do it. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #43

Both sides do it well. NCTraveler Feb 2015 #44

I mentioned it up thread. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #46

I agree. RiverLover Feb 2015 #45

Those were lies about Obama, the things about Hillary are true. RiverLover Feb 2015 #66

Which candidate will they be treating with kid gloves? NCTraveler Feb 2015 #76

There is a huge disconnect between how Democrats and independents see her nationally Godhumor Feb 2015 #33

This isn't about Repubs hating Hillary, it's about Clinton's not playing by the rules. TheNutcracker Feb 2015 #37

It is going to get REALLY nasty - especially if there are Epstein tapes elfin Feb 2015 #38

You will see no tape, as long as Clinton protects Epstein from real jail time, and good conditons. TheNutcracker Feb 2015 #47

Unsubstantiated RW smear. FSogol Feb 2015 #82

It's the "whitey" tape from 2008. nt msanthrope Feb 2015 #84

Good expose her now before she offically runs ChosenUnWisely Feb 2015 #39

Believing one particular candidate invites more attacks than another would is an irrational contradi LanternWaste Feb 2015 #53

Which of the 2 finalist oligarchy puppets will the people vote for? L0oniX Feb 2015 #55

Unrec. Heritage Foundation crap. FSogol Feb 2015 #57

You noticed that too, huh? Bobbie Jo Feb 2015 #72

What's sad is how quick DUers who aren't returning zombies lap up RW crap. FSogol Feb 2015 #74

I wish she wouldn't run, also, but really - who is going to take her on??? adigal Feb 2015 #60

I would have loved Caroline Kennedy but she had an awful debut. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #65

I know....she is a terrible speaker, but would be a populist, I think nt adigal Feb 2015 #68

She seems like an introvert and politics isn't an arena for introverts./NT DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #69

Weak Sauce Darb Feb 2015 #62

Bullshit headline. It is the Clinton Foundation, you do know what that is don't you? still_one Feb 2015 #63

If Hillary is our candidate in 2016, we win in a landslide. NYC Liberal Feb 2015 #67

She will be a formidable candidate, but nothing is certain. I suspect jeb bush will be the still_one Feb 2015 #70

If it's a choice between Bill Clinton's and George Walker Bush's third term ... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #73

If they run their campaign properly still_one Feb 2015 #85

No getting around it Hillary is toxic to the Democratic party glasshouses Feb 2015 #75

Yeah, thats why she has double digit leads over the GOP. JaneyVee Feb 2015 #77

what does the current Dem party want with a victory? 1. they'll still get the big money for '18 MisterP Feb 2015 #81