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Showing Original Post only (View all)Dresden was a civilian town with no military significance. Why did we burn its people? [View all]
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/11410633/Dresden-was-a-civilian-town-with-no-military-significance.-Why-did-we-burn-its-people.htmlDresden was a civilian town with no military significance. Why did we burn
its people?
If there was no good strategic reason for it, then not even the passage of time can make it
right
By Dominic Selwood
11:14AM GMT 13 Feb 2015
Today marks the 70th anniversary of Operation Thunderclap, one of the twentieth centurys most controversial military actions.
From 13 to 15 February 1945, British (and some American) heavy bombers dropped 2,400 tons of high explosives and 1,500 tons of incendiary bombs onto the ancient cathedral city of Dresden. In just a few hours, around 25,000 to 35,000 civilians were blown up or incinerated.
Victor Gregg, a British para captured at Arnhem, was a prisoner of war in Dresden that night who was ordered to help with the clear up. In a 2014 BBC interview he recalled the hunt for survivors after the apocalyptic firestorm. In one incident, it took his team seven hours to get into a 1,000-person air-raid shelter in the Altstadt. Once inside, they found no survivors or corpses: just a green-brown liquid with bones sticking out of it. The cowering people had all melted. In areas further from the town centre there were legions of adults shrivelled to three feet in length. Children under the age of three had simply been vaporised.
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Supporters of Britains area bombing (targeting civilians instead of military or industrial sites)
maintain that it was a vital part of the war. Churchill wrote that he wanted absolutely devastating, exterminating attacks by very heavy bombers from this country upon the Nazi homeland. In another letter he called it terror bombing. His aim was to demoralise the Germans to catalyse regime change. Research suggests that the soaring homelessness levels and family break ups did indeed depress civilian morale, but there is no evidence it helped anyone prise Hitlers cold hand off the wheel.
Others maintain that it was ghastly, but Hitler started it so needed to be answered in a language he understood. Unfortunately, records show that the first intentional area bombing of civilians in the Second World War took place at Monchengladbach on 11 May 1940 at Churchills orders (the day after he dramatically became prime minister), and four months before the Luftwaffe began its Blitz of British cities.
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Karmadillo
Feb 2015
OP
I didn't put words in your mouth and you repaid that by putting words in mine
CreekDog
Feb 2015
#140
A reason we flourished then was that WWII or "the peace" eliminated a lot of our competiton.
merrily
Feb 2015
#63
The rail yards were more important to bomb, and they were the center of our attacks
jmowreader
Feb 2015
#92
Ever heard of the 20-million Chinese killed during the Japanese occupation, or the 15 million
leveymg
Feb 2015
#59
Napalm was used a fair amount in WWII. During the American Civil war we came up with the idea of
braddy
Feb 2015
#4
You might want to read C.P. Snow who explained how strategic bombing probably prolonged the war
leveymg
Feb 2015
#40
In part, it was to serve as a warning to Stalin of the capabilities of Western air power. . .
Journeyman
Feb 2015
#2
interestingly the same process happened in the Korean War: they started to run out
MisterP
Feb 2015
#81
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Feb 2015
#8
My dad had a book titled The Complete History of a WW ll. He must have acquired it in the late 40's or the early 50's
mobeau69
Feb 2024
#143
Not everything posted is an attack against the US, at least to the non-paranoid
DisgustipatedinCA
Feb 2015
#26
It was controversial at the time and there was disagreement about its effectiveness:
CJCRANE
Feb 2015
#39
Thanks. See my post #39 about the origin of the policy and discussion of its effectiveness. nt
CJCRANE
Feb 2015
#41
I'd bet good money that I know a great deal more about that war than you do.
DisgustipatedinCA
Feb 2015
#37
The one we're not supposed to be discussing, because treestar said so?
DisgustipatedinCA
Feb 2015
#65
These deaths were right and good. So you have to stop talking about them now. nt
DisgustipatedinCA
Feb 2015
#75
"There must be a point where even terrorism is called for" So say terrorists everywhere.
ND-Dem
Feb 2015
#69
Well, if I had any point to make, I suppose it would be that Dresden did have military
MADem
Feb 2015
#82
Well you are lol...the rest of DU are supposed to talk about it and maybe have a discussion.
Rex
Feb 2015
#96
One of the premises of strategic bombing was break the will of the citizenry,
Lurks Often
Feb 2015
#23
Oh, are we asking why persons of non-military significance were burned? Please, carry on.
Dreamer Tatum
Feb 2015
#24
26 German and 1 Polish assination attempts on Hitler over 10 years - this was a Resistance
Pooka Fey
Feb 2015
#86
Sorry, everyone--for some strange reason, my post repeated itself with the same post number
MADem
Feb 2015
#129
I used to say that too, with deep conviction. Then I learned to speak French and hear their side
Pooka Fey
Feb 2015
#113
Camus in French Resistance Intel unit "Combat" from 1941, & published a clandestine journal
Pooka Fey
Feb 2015
#114
Gathering Intel & disfusing it to Resistance & Allies made him an enemy combattant of Nazis
Pooka Fey
Feb 2015
#118
To allow hind-sighters to cluck their tongues righteously 70 years after the fact.
Orrex
Feb 2015
#110
I don't know the details of this -- but similar examples are the problem with war
JonLP24
Feb 2015
#121